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180712.195 in reply to 180712.194
Date: 7/23/2011 6:11:01 AM
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sigh...guess i will be seeing the results with sticking with my plan next week....
no pops this week

i spoke to the U21 coach lately that this pg im training might have a chance making the U21 at age 21...i doubt it though...

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180712.196 in reply to 180712.195
Date: 7/23/2011 10:09:50 AM
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Sanderson or Atli? Do you mind sharing skills and i can give my thought on whether he will make it...

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180712.197 in reply to 180712.196
Date: 7/23/2011 11:38:38 AM
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Atli. Yea no problem since is still early stage of his career

his skill sets are below

Jump Shot: average Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: prominent Handling: sensational
Driving: strong Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: atrocious Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: respectable Free Throw: average

Experience: atrocious

his OD popped 2 weeks ago and got 48+ minutes last week tho it didn't pop.
I think it will pop next week thus making him prolific on OD and maybe occasional pop in driving or handling also.

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180712.199 in reply to 180712.197
Date: 7/24/2011 1:18:35 AM
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Definitely keep pumping OD and start pumping passing and 1v1. His only shot is as a PG and even that is tough with the deficiency of JR as it is the slowest guard skill to train. He is a very nice prospect though. I would think a build like 11/8/16/14/12/13 for guard skills would put him in consideration.

That would mean you would need 5 pops in JS and JR. 6 OD pops, 6 passing, 4 driving, and 2 handling pops.

I find it highly unlikely to get all of that training in. You have 28 weeks until his 21 yo season and 28 pops. I think it will take roughly 32 weeks or so to get those numbers. However with a good trainer and some luck you could make it. Maybe at the start of the 21 season you shoot for a more realistic 10/7/15/14/12/12. I kept driving/handling the same as those will train quickly. This would be 24 pops which is much more feasible, but still highly unlikely IMO due to the training of very tough skills like OD/JR/JS. Obviously those are not exact numbers, but the JS/JR deficiency really makes it tough unless the U21 manager at the time uses him as a LI PG only.

That's just my two cents. I feel I was very generous on training speed too so who knows if even the second set of numbers can happen. 4 JS = 8 weeks usually. 4 JR = 6-7 weeks due to cross training and elastic effect (may be generous still). 5 OD = 9-10 weeks...no way really around that. could be more really. 5 passing = 8 weeks...again generous maybe but cross training with 1v1 for forwards helps. 4DR/2HA = 5 weeks ...HA could pop a third time to up it to 15 during the same trainings. I'm also assuming IS will pop once through cross training which at least gets it off of atrocious. Even the low numbers on the training weeks equals out to 36 weeks. So this training plan will go through the majority of the 21st season if not all of it. Maybe by the end of the season he will be useful which is better than nothing.

I dunno if this helps but this is my ramble and analysis. Tell me I'm an idiot if you want, just throwing some stuff out there.

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180712.200 in reply to 180712.199
Date: 7/24/2011 4:34:59 AM
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Thanks for the advice!

here is what the U21 coach replied me:

Depends on his other skills at the time but for your guy, at least 11/7 JS/JR. That sounds like a realistic goal but its not a guarantee he'll get on the team. He'd need exceptional OD (Marvelous would be a good target) or exceptional Passing (13/14 range and high OD) or some unique inside skills.

Other guys are usually around 14/9 give or take in either.

Well...he will definitely be an important part of my team in the future...that's all i need to know...rather he makes the U21 or not...knowing someone like Ken Wilson was only a backup point guard for the U21 team when he was 21 made my goal faded away. haha

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180712.201 in reply to 180712.198
Date: 7/24/2011 10:15:06 PM
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Congra on VDS crowning the DIII.4!!!
I had no chance to fight back at all through out the whole game and it showed VDS is definitely ready for DII challenge!

Greatly disappointed about our forum activity this season as two teams had tuned bots and the total number of posts just hang around 250 posts. probably also because Cleveland has to deal with his master degree, things should get better as Donner should stay since Crank dat is bot(?) and with new teams coming in

My team is going to go through a big change in order for me to become a legit DIII team similar to VDS and Imperial Phantoms!

Wish the best of luck for you VDS!!! make us pride in DII!

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180712.203 in reply to 180712.201
Date: 7/25/2011 12:30:29 AM
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Donner won't stay. Both he and Crank dat will demote through regular demotion and bot cleanup. We will get a team from D4 that did not win their league, but won their conference and has a better record/PD than all other D4 teams via bot cleanup.