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I guess that the BBs should not do anything on this game, until they will experience everything themselves (upon your POV).
They should not use common sense, and should not use rational (upon your suggestion).

Following your POW they should remake the entire game and make it into a real life BB game instead. I guess not much would be as it is if you got as you want.

No connection between the two.

I use common sense, and if there was flows with that the message that I wrote to that troll would have gotten an answer breaking my claim or at least shaking it.
It did not.
He chose to attack me and to point that until I will not be at those micro-nation (and so also the BBs), I cannot have a POV. "Great way of thinking"...

Wow... you had counted six different users (from a community of 50K)!!!
Amazing!

And you are one.

I never claimed that there are many who support (in this forum) my POV.
This stupidity of thinking never came from my side.

This way to break claims and arguments came from somebody else, who just couldn't find arguments to support his POV.

[quote75 users still means that the division you've join into had been almost BOT-free. Didn't you claim something else?

Summary - this is not a cure, but just "a cup of tea" for this "disease".

Two points: There is little difference between a bot and someone who creates a team and then never logs in again. Indeed, my understanding is that sometimes a bot can be better than a newly created team.
Second: The only cure is to have larger nations. We've all agreed on that, as far as I can see. Given that the BBs have said that they are not going to merge nations, this is an alternative which may solve some issues.

I do wish that you would actually try to comprehend what people are saying instead of being confrontational just for the sake of it. I actually do think that some of your suggestions are good; the problem is that you don't think anyone else can have any ideas.

75 users still means that the division you've join into had been almost BOT-free. Didn't you claim something else?

Summary - this is not a cure, but just "a cup of tea" for this "disease".

Two points: There is little difference between a bot and someone who creates a team and then never logs in again. Indeed, my understanding is that sometimes a bot can be better than a newly created team.

Almost never. And you know it.

Second: The only cure is to have larger nations. We've all agreed on that, as far as I can see. Given that the BBs have said that they are not going to merge nations, this is an alternative which may solve some issues.

The first part is right.
The second is not. It will solve none, and I have explained why.

I do wish that you would actually try to comprehend what people are saying instead of being confrontational just for the sake of it. I actually do think that some of your suggestions are good; the problem is that you don't think anyone else can have any ideas.

I'm arguing against it, as I don't see how it will assist, and I've explained why.
When I argue for or against I do not have secret agenda, nor do I do it for the sake of arguing.
This accusation has no ground, and could be used against anyone that thinks the opposite than you.
It is the easy way out for a politician.

I use common sense

Yeah you say that. But a argument that someone else makes never makes any sense and what ever you say always does.

I think you do not know what IS common sense.
Common sense means that one uses logic to estimate the situation.
It does not matter whether I think I am right or wrong, and I never used an attack on another user just because the other user opinion had been different than mine.
On a total parallel part - I do not need to agree with ideas that I think are wrong.
On some of the cases, I am (almost) obligated to disagree when the reasoning one gives is for his own sake and not the sake of the game.

I think we need to help him.
Most of us are just shootin the breeze and well if we get on eachothers back, we are pretty good at seeing where we got off track (even if we don't always admit). Anyway I think he doesn't realize what he is doing. Maybe he is just really really young too. Sometimes I forget kids are on here with us.

@Pini
How old are you?

And you keep bringing "relevant" arguments to support your claim or to contradict mine.
Mature indeed...

I am not going to coutner your argument point by point and I do not acknowledge anything you claim as absolute fact. I tried to show you some points where you made sense, and I tried to help you see where you were being obviously unreasonable and aggressive. I'll have to try another approach.

Summary - "I cannot contradict your claims or give claims to support mine". Great...

I think most will agree, conversations with you are rather unpleasant experiences.

It is interesting claim here...
As far as I remember, the first reaction between us on this topic had been your attack. Not on anything I wrote but personally.

I really think you should consider how much you stand out.
Are you not concerned with how different your behavior is with that of the community?

Most who write on this forum, are old users, and probably all are those who are playing at the first division.
Some are consciously speaking for keeping the advantage they have.
Surely there are not many (if any) that are from a lower division.
Last but not least, it is kind of sad that you need the support of the community to feel you worth something.
Well, apparently there is another point - who is "all"? Six users here?

I almost minored in psychology in college and considered studying to the point of making it a profession, alas linguistics was my cup of tea.

You know what is said on those who goes to study Psychology (or "thought to learn" that)...

Although my main reason for suspecting you have a narcissistic disorder is that you have never (that I've seen) expressed the slightest hint of humility. I think this has more to do though with a lack of respect for any counterargument as a result of your obsessiveness, not necessarily a feeling of complete supiority.

This is why I counter other opinion (when I think the opposite) with an argument that contradicts it, whereas you decided to pinpoint my personality w/o any real ability at that either...

An elitist would be less likely to even entertain arguments. Your need to constantly counter every point and demanding everyone to follow each point you make as correct and established fact speaks to a fanatic delusion.

Sorry that I am trying to relate to other comments, and does not choose to attack the personality of the one I debate with.

Amazingly, I read this through, and did not see any argument but a personal attack.
How again did you called one who is aggressive and has no humility?

Last edited by Pini פיני at 3/10/2012 3:32:55 PM