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Alan Guest actually

I see your $3,183,700 acquisition is slowly starting to train.

Tortured watching you repeatedly bid over me to get him

You definitely had a way of messing with my mind.

? How much do you reckon he'd sell for if you started him for 1$ on the open market today?

Ryder, Williams and Palmeri collectively cost me close to 4 and a half mill to purchase and another million or two in trainers plus several million lost in attendances not being in the ABBL

Would you get a mill for Guest if you tried to sell him?

Judge him not by his salary. He is listed as a PF but has spent a lot of time at PG and C being trained and I imagine he is freakishly well balanced.

Post stats please.

Judge him not by his salary. He is listed as a PF but has spent a lot of time at PG and C being trained and I imagine he is freakishly well balanced.

Guest spent his first 3 years playing as a centre. Its only the last season and a little that he has started to play in other positions.

Guest recently played 48 mins at SF in a private league game and only ranked 8.5.
(Which is not great as Private League games generally produce higher ratings than leagur games)

Incomparisom;

Ryder recently ranked 13 over 18 minutes in a league game (as a SF)
Williams ranked 14.5 over 17 minutes in a private league game (as a SF)
Palmeri ranked 11 over 24 minutes in a league game (as a SF)

(Williams & Palmeri are a year younger than Guest and Ryder)

I tend to doubt that Guest is that freakishly well balanced.

I reckon Shanmag thought I was going to bid over her, and got caught with him when I didnt and maybe didnt have the resources to train him properly

198cm and with monster secondaries as an 18yo, he was the best natural SF trainee that one could inagine, he could have been anything.

Miles better than Williams or Ryder as an 18yo, plus an ideal height for a SF trainee as well (unlike Ryder206cm and Williams 188cm)

At best Guest might now end up as a PF with a jumpshot

I hope Im wrong and that he turns out great

My guys will be 24 or 25 and actually playing as Forwards before they get much soft two position training like one on one or jumpshot




Last edited by Sid Vicious at 7/3/2013 9:27:09 AM

Guest recently played 48 mins at SF in a private league game and only ranked 8.5.
(Which is not great as Private League games generally produce higher ratings than leagur games)

Incomparisom;

Ryder recently ranked 13 over 18 minutes in a league game (as a SF)
Williams ranked 14.5 over 17 minutes in a private league game (as a SF)
Palmeri ranked 11 over 24 minutes in a league game (as a SF)

LOL surely you don't think you can compare Guest who played a full 48 minutes to your players who played sub minutes and think it will be an accurate comparison? I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just trying to bait me.

I don't think you can compare Guest and Ryder since we have both taken different training plans thus far. Maybe we can compare in a few seasons time when we are finished. Until then, I'm not even going to bother trying to get in to a pissing contest with you.

So we have guest, waldron and kruatz versus ryder, williams and palmeri.
Can't wait to see them in 4-5 seasons time.

It is funny now that all the best NT players are trained by high profile managers when it used to always be randoms that trained them, just got a guy with high potential and pushed primaries to the max.

So i did a little bit of analysis. I took Williams' skills from start of the season (ie: submitted on offsite forum for U21 team).

Williams is 5-6 pops from being classified as a PF. He would need 5-6 or so pops on his inside skills to then be classified as a PF.

Whereas Guest is already a PF. So it is hard to compare the two.

Ironically, Williams is only 2 OD pops from being classified as a SG.

The thing about a PF, is that there are three big men skills contributing the most of their classification (IS, ID and RBcontribute approx 0.4 as from the Potential Calculator stats). and then JS contributes 0.32
Whereas with a SG, JS(.45), JR(.5) and OD(.42) contribute the most, with rebounding being the 4th to contribute at .25

so my point being, is that you can have a PF, who has high IS + ID + JS AND JR and have high stats in passing, handling driving as these skills contribute as much to the SG classification as they do in the PF classification.....So the guy can still be classified as a PF, and yet, literally be 1 or 2 OD pops away from being classified as a SG.

So whilst Guest's classification might still be PF, he might actually be freakishly well balanced, simply because of the above phenomena with stat classification/distribution.

Last edited by Coach Regan at 7/3/2013 9:33:35 PM

I think Sid is just trying to bait me because he is still bitter he missed out on Guest... and because he made assumptions about our ABBL regulation series. He bought up because he thought that's what I was going to do (-$$$). I sold up (+$$$).

One day I just hope Guest can be half as good as the new chosen one, Ivan Ryder.

Last edited by Shanmag at 7/3/2013 11:02:27 PM

I think Sid is just trying to bait me because he is still bitter he missed out on Guest... and because he made assumptions about our ABBL regulation series. He bought up because he thought that's what I was going to do (-$$$). I sold up (+$$$).

One day I just hope Guest can be half as good as the new chosen one, Ivan Ryder

There is no doubt that you, many times more than anyone else, has really messed with my mind big time over the seasons.

You have always had the knack of doing it, but whilst you will never admit it, I reckon I left you hanging with Guest as you thought I was going to get him at all costs.

.....So the guy can still be classified as a PF, and yet, literally be 1 or 2 OD pops away from being classified as a SG.

Yep Ryders already made the cross over to being classified as a PF, a couple of weeks ago Palmeri was classified as a SG and now he is a SF.

I suspect that by the end of next season they will all be classified as PFs and it will then take another 2 seasons of training to get them back to being SFs.

Williams will ultimately be a balanced SF with perhaps an outside bias
Palmeri will be reasonably balanced SF with a difference
Ryder will either be an Inside focused SF or an outside focused PF





Last edited by Sid Vicious at 7/3/2013 11:56:03 PM

and it will then take another 2 seasons of training

\So does that mean you are not coming to the ABBL for at least another 2 seasons? Can we lock this in?