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Mazzolini has still the highest TSP. But he had some downs and he has the same amount like Tjädermo now. Birgersson has two skill points less.

Game 2 and 3
After the loss against England, I had to reevaluate our situation in the group and plan the next two games. Aiming for two wins against Russia and Hungary would end up with two losses. That was my opinion on this topic. So I had to go for one win and tank the other game. Russia would be angry after their loss against Iceland and come for revenge against us. Hungary on the other side had an easier second game and they would (I hoped so) come easy on us. So I decided that we would go easy in our second game and hope for the best outcome. The real deal would be the game against Hungary.
The game against Russia was lost. According to their NT they "tore us to pieces" but okay.
Today came the real test against Hungary. And thanks to a strong team effort and individual strenghts we managed to win with 120:110 With this we are back in the concert for second place. We can't afford any further loss and have to hope that England wins every of their remaining games. Only than we will have a shot at the next round.

Next week we will face the unbeaten Austrians. They showed some great games so far and they will be a very unconfortable opponent.

Last edited by Nachtmahr at 1/2/2017 4:17:25 PM

I have a topic which I would like to discuss with you.

This friday, we had the third consecutive week with at least one double down! The players which you know for seasons are loosing their edge and we are currently in a race against the time. So how it looks now, at the end of this season we will be weakened.
And here is the point where I want your opinions. Should I make a hard cut at the end of this season and realise the old players and start the next season with a younger squad. Or should I still concider them for one more season and play with the risk that every friday could turn one of them to a burden for the team.

Option 1 would mean, that the team would have younger players, who get training but lack some skills. We could lose more games, but there is no garantee that we will win more with the older ones. It also dosn't mean that they will be starters. The starting five would be from the current players (under 33).

Option 2 means, that we play for one more season with some of the older (34+) players and hope that their skill downs don't hurt us. The benefit is that these players are known and it's possible to compensate some of the flaws... until a certain point.

Which players would/could be affected?
Tunggard - downs and bad game shape
Molner - lost one of his most important skills already
Tuikkala - until now no skilldowns, so we could still gamble on him
Mazzolini - had eight downs already
Martinsson - had some downs too
Sandbom - after his downs at the start of last season there were no more... also a gamble

And next season some others will turn 33 and could be affected by the downs.
Widerström
Tjädermo
Everland

These three will be nominated and I will take the risk to play with them.

We have still more than a hlf of a season left, but I would like to get some feedback from you. What do you sink about the generation change? Do you have ideas how we could manage it in a most effective way?

I will look for the players who would be the "replacement" for our current NT players. So maybe it will help us to evaluate the situation.

Keep Sandbom and kick the rest of them ;)

Could a combination be an option? Gamble on a few of them and let some go.

Hard to say when we don't know how much worse the younger players are, but I trust your judgement

Keep up the good work =)

Im for a hard cut, especially if its players who would come off the bench. Boost the younger players experience and get the owner/manager into the idea of maybe training for the national team with a specific skill and so on.
Martinsson will be 36 next season?, the drops are gonna come hard then, hell be a shadow of himself :)

Not an easy call, but sooner or later theres a generation shift. The current u-21, looks pretty promising so if you stick around for them to grow up, we could have a nice team.

Edit: Just saw that the higher salery players in u-21 were low potential players... so maybe not that promising after all :/

Last edited by rufferto at 1/8/2017 8:18:48 AM

@Ahlstroem

Could a combination be an option?

It will be a part of a combiation. With Widerström and Tjädermo at least two 33y/o will play. Everland is almost a safe call too. Tuikkala maybe too. Your Sandbom, if he keeps his skills, could make the cut. But only the next weeks can tell us.

@Manon
Good idea with the DMI! I haven't thought about it and I will start tracking their DMI.

@KasparL

Hard to say when we don't know how much worse the younger players are

Guards:
We are talking currently of a difference of appr. 10 total skill points. The possible new players for next season are: Smol and Carlsson

SF:
The difference here is bigger. The possible SFs like Sunesson, Carlsson and Stjärnland lack 20-30 TSP.

Bigs:
This area is maybe the strongest. With Birgersson we have a still young player. Öby could play as a back up for at least 2 seasons. Westerlund, Lagerhall, Danielsson, Dehllund, Tjäderborg and Johansson are only the top of the future bigs. But these players are still very young (22-24) and have TSP around 90-100.

@rufferto:
Yes, Martinsson and Mazzolini are already weakened. And I really don't know of these two will make it to the next season. They had some nasty downs.

Just saw that the higher salery players in u-21 were low potential players... so maybe not that promising after all

I wouldn't say so. We have around 10-12 promising players in the group 22-25 years. And some younger ones like Höster and Martinsson (there is a new one in the making ;) ) train really fast and will make it.

Maybe it is sufficient to keep the old players who is only marginally better than their alternative on the bench out of the team. Having 6 young players as the fill out players might make it rather easy during the season to replace players who has skill drops as well.