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From: Monkeybiz

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Date: 3/28/2010 10:21:34 PM
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Its not a case of potential but more a case of his inside skills being a bit low to start off with. It will take half a season to get those skills up to what a decent C/PF should be at the start of the season. By then thats half a season's training gone and there are guys that are way ahead of him.

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Date: 3/29/2010 4:19:26 AM
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I disagree.

Yes, a little more potential would be nice but as we're seeing with so many other big men, most of them don't have the chance to reach their full potential because their wages get too high to be trained further.
I think his inside skills are fine as a starting point and his outside skills actually give him an advantage over most other big men. I'd say the training plan is a good one and would even suggest extending the One on One (or even just JumpShot training) and Passing training (with 1 position training) a little more than currently planned until the passing is at average/respectable and jumpshot is at proficient. Half a season should do it.

Then you'll be able to switch to the big man training and you'll probably have one of the better PFs in the country by the time he's nearly 22.

You'll be able to play him very effectively in outside tactics as well as inside tactics and he should basically be a nightmare for anyone trying to guard him.

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Date: 3/29/2010 7:01:54 AM
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Yo y'all does this aussey have a shot at making your u21 team or is he way too far behind?

Zdravko Baković (12019654) Shooting Guard
Weekly salary: $ 12 921
DMI: 31600
Age: 19
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: respectable
Jump Shot: prominent Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: strong Handling: respectable
Driving: strong Passing: awful
Inside Shot: average Inside Def.: pitiful
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: pitiful
Stamina: respectable ↑ Free Throw: awful

Experience: pitiful


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84879.199 in reply to 84879.198
Date: 3/29/2010 7:13:48 AM
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I'd say he's too far behind at this stage. Nice developing player but not NT material.

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Date: 3/29/2010 7:28:05 AM
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Date: 3/29/2010 8:31:36 AM
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Wow Adams Guns had a good season. Won the Championship, got an MVP PF with pick 16 and Jone Bogan with pick 32 can't get much better then all that. Getting an MVP and a HOF in the same draft i better find out his secret lol

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Date: 3/29/2010 11:24:25 PM
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I own the #8 player on that list, I'm training him as a SF. He doesn't have enough potential for the NT, could he make it into the U21 team? I noticed the junior team only has 1 small forward, with a fairly low salary.

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Date: 3/29/2010 11:57:59 PM
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The U21 team is in the process of being picked so there will be a few changes. Star potential is fairly low but theres usually a lack of genuine SF's so if he is trained well he could have a chance when he is 20 or 21.

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Date: 3/30/2010 1:00:52 AM
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Kris Damstra (13434822)
Power Forward

Weekly salary: $ 6 122

DMI: 16800
Age: 18
Height: 6'3" / 190 cm
Potential: star
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: respectable
Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: mediocre
Handling: mediocre
Driving: respectable
Passing: pitiful
Inside Shot: respectable
Inside Def.: average
Rebounding: average
Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: average
Free Throw: strong

He's pretty good, except for his pitiful passing and atrocious JR. I'm training 5 rookies this season (level 4 trainer) so that might slow down his progress a little. Do you think he could be on the team when he's 21?

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Date: 3/30/2010 1:22:13 AM
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I don't think he could make the U21 team sorry. The reason being that he only has star potential. Also don't train him in inside skills because he will train slowly because of his height. And if you are training 5 players that means you are training 2 positions which means he won't train fast enough to make the U21 team. But he is still a good player, and you could definitely make him a good player for your team :)

Goodluck!

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84879.206 in reply to 84879.204
Date: 3/30/2010 2:17:12 AM
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i am no expert but i do think that "Jump Range: atrocious" is going to be a killer for whatever you do with him you can check the training threads but i would assume that with two position training that it will take nearly a season of training to get that even up to respectable and then you need to do something about the passing

it is probably the second slowest thing to train and given his height training his inside skills will be slow so honestly i don't know what you can do with him

if it was me i would just sell him for $ 500K or 1million while you can

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