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The grey balls are definitely worthless. Sometimes a one grey ball can give 4 or 5 orange balls when you scout it.

ABBL draft looks like a norm again. Absolutely worthless. Only way you can get any good rookies from the ABBL is if your are lucky or named adam guns. =P Again I will save my scouting points.

9 more league games to go. Looks like the Great 8 is set in stone. abigfishy will have to win 6 of 9 games to catch up to slam! or urmummas to sneak into the 5th spot. In the Big 8, awesome, BLS and Park Bell Supercats are all fighting to avoid 6th spot.

Huge game tonight, Whitebeard hosting Pancakes. This will be a good chance for Pancakes to gauge his team against the benchmark of the ABBL so far.

where r the 5 pot dudes every other league seems 2 get???

i was hoping 2 maybe get some1 myself but now i dont know if i should bother

cmon mllama u have nothing 2 lose what r the others? any good short guards?

I haven't done a huge amount of scouting yet - I forgot to put money into scouting at the start of the season ;)

I've done a bit though, only found 3 5 potential guys, and only the one I mentioned worth looking at at all.

The 5/4 guy is a SF though, and a pretty good height for a SF, so he may end up being ok.

I think you are geting potential and ball skills around the wrong way. A 5/4 is a five skills and four potential (superstar at best) whereas a 4/5 has worse starting skills but is at least a MVP and maybe an all time great. There are no five ball potential players in this draft unless you have been interviewing low skill 19 year olds or very low skill 18s.

The 5/4 SF may indeed be the best player in the draft, but that is the problem. If the best player in the entire draft has a starting salary of less than $3,500 and is a perennial allstar what do you think his market value will be? If you didn't mind the nationality you could get much better for less than $100,000. Certainly you can get a great player from a perennial allstar but at the moment I have run into capping issues with superstar potential players which really hurts. On the other hand he could be a well balanced superstar with all great skills and become a legend.

Last edited by yodabig at 1/19/2013 5:23:42 AM

Sorry yeah, I meant 3 5 skill guys, but whatever

5/4 could be crap, could be decent. The fact that he is a SF with decent heights makes it more likely he could be a decent trainee I think though - could eek a bit more out of his cap.

Superstar sf isnt that bad :) good game mate! I thought your going to smash me withh my game sghape really bad

That game has me really worried. My arena, more effort, your bad game shape, I had three of five starters proficient the other two strong and yet it was so close. Great use of the inside box and one, awesome (lol) to see someone use it with such good effect.

Youve prolly notice it in PL that ived been experimenting and i didnt expect it to work that good. I thought i had it in the bag when i was leading by 5 in OT then refresh my phone boom i lost. Anyways good game even if i lost :( i have resp and strong gs :( my trainee had a career game lol funny thing is i was watching my team mavs lost in OT lol

abigfishy will have to win 6 of 9 games to catch up to slam! or urmummas to sneak into the 5th spot

now 5 of 8 :D

cut & paste from cup forum where wb & i debate if wombats or urmummas r the better team

if ne1 really thinks urmammas is #2 team in oz better than wombats, pancakes, koop, aussie pride or bls they r just tripping

for the record

Guanzheng Goldfish (38642)
Manager: abigfishy
Country: Australia
League: ABBL
Rival: adams guns
World Rank: 250
Country Rank: 3

does ne1 really think im the #3 team in oz? no way

the official rankings top 20

Whitebeard 1 12
Urmummas 2 166
Guanzheng Goldfish 3 250
Aussie Pride 4 297
Monkey Business 5 341
Black Label Society 6 408
Awesome^.- 7 417
Pancakes with Jam and Cream 8 429
Koopasaurus 9 461
Chelsea Seagulls 10 494
Lewisham Wombats 11 547
Western Titans 12 737
WA IS A DUMP 13 872
Slam ! 14 910
West Island Tigers 15 931
Bell Park SuperCats 16 1014
Southern Breakers 17 1183
Billy Hoyles Boys 18 1205
tannum tantrums 19 1229
Chumunga 20 1375

but they r way out a team like ombats maybe tanking now but with many millions in the bank, a top manager & incredible history must be much higher

so here is the fishy top 12 & u will notice i am not even in my own top 12 lol

1 Whitebeard best team in oz by far the benchmark 4 the rest
2 Lewisham Wombats best oz team of all time have the smarts & money just not the inclination
3 Black Label Society when they try they win taking their time training their beastsbut when ready theyll be unbeatable
4 Pancakes with Jam and Cream historically beasts & r back on the up after a rebuild
5 WA IS A DUMP just check the trophy cabinet currently waiting out the WB domination
6 Koopasaurus got mad skills, fearless & a touch of luck
7 Urmummas great economic manager & poker player willing to go all in
8 Chelsea Seagulls well managed & coached team does it with low budget
9 Bell Park SuperCats very quiet & low profile but been in the abbl since season 5
10 Aussie Pride very well managed & coached
11 Monkey Business was a benchmark 4 well balanced teams only 1/2 playing now
12 Awesome^.- a shout 2 the young guy youngest abbl ever coming from season 13 & not doing badly this season in abbl

If you truly want to debate about historical all time Australian BB manager rankings or even recent rankings, there are plenty of managers missing from that list.

Missing in all time:
Tier 1: Eagles, Shoei, Shepard
Gap
Gap
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Tier 2: Name all those that made the ABBL/Cup Finals or have longevity in the ABBL.

Missing in recent times:
Slam, Chumunga, Noodles, Bogans

Depends on how you judge a manager in ranking. Is it performance? Is it community work? Combination of both?

Last edited by Whitebeard at 1/21/2013 8:23:08 PM