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10046.2 in reply to 10046.1
Date: 12/14/2007 5:53:45 PM
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I'm assuming this feature isn't available yet because it's too early in the season?


Precisely.

It will be close to the end of the season.

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A CT? Really?
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10046.3 in reply to 10046.2
Date: 12/15/2007 10:15:32 AM
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Thinking out loud, is there any reason why the scouting results couldn't be updated as the season goes along? At the first of the season, you might know that there is a "5" and a "2", and another owner might know that there are a pair of "4"s. As time goes on they might learn about the grade and best skill. But since the player order is randomized, is there anything more that can be shared during the season than can be shared at the end of the season?

Some owners have asked to know how many units of scouting that they have used. What better way than to show the actual results. It could even introduce a little bit of tactics into spending. If you aren't seeing many "5"s you can boost your scouting, or cut back if you think that you have enough prospects.

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10046.4 in reply to 10046.3
Date: 12/15/2007 11:34:24 AM
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is there any reason why the scouting results couldn't be updated as the season goes along?


That would be helpful indeed.

I have a newbie question about scouting. The scouting updates with the training on friday morning, but on the economy page the costs remains till the economy update.
If I want to change the amount of scouting, when should I do that? What happens if I do it between friday and sunday?

Edited by Newton07 (12/15/2007 11:34:56 AM CET)

Last edited by Newton07 at 12/15/2007 11:34:56 AM

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10046.5 in reply to 10046.4
Date: 12/15/2007 11:59:33 AM
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Wow, great question.

Anyone know the answer to this?

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10046.6 in reply to 10046.3
Date: 12/15/2007 5:09:48 PM
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Thinking out loud, is there any reason why the scouting results couldn't be updated as the season goes along? At the first of the season, you might know that there is a "5" and a "2", and another owner might know that there are a pair of "4"s. As time goes on they might learn about the grade and best skill. But since the player order is randomized, is there anything more that can be shared during the season than can be shared at the end of the season?

Some owners have asked to know how many units of scouting that they have used. What better way than to show the actual results. It could even introduce a little bit of tactics into spending. If you aren't seeing many "5"s you can boost your scouting, or cut back if you think that you have enough prospects.


This is a wonderful idea. I'm in this game essentially for the draft and the subsequent player development. That's what interests me. Seeing the draft scouting unfold would keep me interested.

Of course, it would also allow for a greater opportunity for friends in the same conference to share data to the detriment of the other conference members.

I imagine the above is why BB keeps the data unrevealed until just before the draft.

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10046.7 in reply to 10046.6
Date: 12/15/2007 10:11:03 PM
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Of course, it would also allow for a greater opportunity for friends in the same conference to share data to the detriment of the other conference members.

I imagine the above is why BB keeps the data unrevealed until just before the draft.


That is precisely why it wont happen.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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10046.8 in reply to 10046.7
Date: 12/16/2007 2:13:29 AM
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Thanks for the confirmation.

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10046.9 in reply to 10046.7
Date: 12/16/2007 6:28:28 AM
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Of course, it would also allow for a greater opportunity for friends in the same conference to share data to the detriment of the other conference members.

I imagine the above is why BB keeps the data unrevealed until just before the draft.

That is precisely why it wont happen.

What data could be shared? "Ooh! I've got a 5" "Shucks. I got another 3 this week." "At least it wasn't a 1 like I had the week before. That was depressing"

Since the identifying numbers are randomized independently for each team, there is no way to really share information.

Or if there is a way to share information, then it could occur in the two weeks before the draft when the scouting information is revealed as easily as it would be if you slowly got more information during the season.

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10046.11 in reply to 10046.9
Date: 12/16/2007 7:00:59 AM
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Without really thinking deeply about it, revealing info in chunks can allow for collusion where the same info about a player could be released to both teams, and they could confirm that's the same player, and then when further, but different info is released about that player, they can share it.

If it's all released at once, this wont occur.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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10046.12 in reply to 10046.10
Date: 12/16/2007 9:07:13 AM
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There are 48 players, and 2 pieces of information about each for a total of 96 pieces of information. You can at most scout 4 players per week. Over 14 weeks that is 56 pieces of information. It is quite unlikely that you will know the star rating of all 48 players, and more likely that you would know about star ratings of perhaps 35 players and additional information about 21 of those, and nothing about 13 players. It would not be likely that any owner would know the star rating of all 48 players. And if his friend had been max scouting, he will already have put in $40K per week for most of the season before he could stop. If you hadn't been maxed out, it is unlikely that you uncoverd the only two "5" in the draft.

And it is dubious that there is a big difference in talent between the players of each league. So probably about 1/5 of the players for each league have each star rating. That might even be enforced. So in effect a "5" means that a player is among the top 1/5 of players in the pool, and so even f you your league has a weak pool, some mediocre players are going to be "5".

If there is a problem with too much information, then increase the number of players in the draft pool (say to 60). And reduce the amount of information that may be gathered. For example, only allow scouting at the start of the season, so that there would only be 11 weeks of scouting. Then at most, a team could know 44/120 pieces of information.

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