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Date: 6/15/2010 10:04:44 PM
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Can you post a link to the game with the correct time?

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Date: 6/15/2010 11:37:40 PM
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Same thing happened to me, and multiple times in my today's game (22757630)

Also, another thing, perhaps even more odd, happened in the last minute of that very same game.
Briefly, after being down two points, 24 seconds before the very end, my coach called a timeout. He did couple of substitutions, and then without me ever losing the ball to my opponent, there is again that problematic line saying how my opponent(?) passes the ball to my player, and then after my player takes the shot, my opponent blocks it.

Here is the link http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/22757630/reportmatch.aspx?realTime=2855

I already posted very similar text at another place (see Play by play problem) so I apologize for the repetition, but this is just too important issue to me, as it directly affected the result of my game.

Last edited by Mr. Hyde at 6/15/2010 11:38:56 PM

From: Emilio

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Date: 6/16/2010 4:59:40 AM
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It also happenend several times in my playoff match for every block.

The viewer is reporting "player X gives a pass to player Y", but player X is a defender. Then the shot is blocked by player X and one block is added to his stats.

It looks the same problem as with the "player X rotate his position to help to defend...", where player X is one member of the attacking team and in fact he is giving a pass to his teammate, but it is reported wrongly by the match viewer (if the player make the shot, one assistence is added to player X).

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Date: 6/16/2010 11:47:18 AM
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Here is the game: 22757628

One occurence at 8:57 of the 2nd quarter where Dragic passed to Ehringshausen and then blocked his shot.

Fouls sure seemed to be amped up.

From: shawnvb

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Date: 6/16/2010 1:36:23 PM
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this happened to me too. i ended up losing by 3.

(22759377)
a few are with 11:38, 11:27, and 10:11 left in the 4th quarter it happened where I passed it to their team.
there were more than that but i only watched some of the game again..

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Date: 6/16/2010 1:39:58 PM
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In all likelihood, this is a match viewer bug which doesn't really affect game simulation. Of course, we will have to wait for a confirmation from a BB, but I am fairly certain this is the case.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 6/16/2010 3:15:44 PM
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In all likelihood, this is a match viewer bug which doesn't really affect game simulation...


If so, how do you explain the fact that after my coach called for timeout, 25 seconds before the end of the game, in the very next report after the timeout was called, my opponent appears to be in possession of the ball?
Wouldn't ball be in my possession if my coach called a timeout? If that is not an obstruction of the game, then I don't know what it is :c

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Date: 6/16/2010 7:37:29 PM
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In all likelihood, this is a match viewer bug which doesn't really affect game simulation...


If so, how do you explain the fact that after my coach called for timeout, 25 seconds before the end of the game, in the very next report after the timeout was called, my opponent appears to be in possession of the ball?
Wouldn't ball be in my possession if my coach called a timeout? If that is not an obstruction of the game, then I don't know what it is :c

You are in possession of the ball. The shot clock is on your side of the screen and your player (Pryor) takes the shot. The viewer incorrectly shows the opposition player (Avalos) as making a pass, while in reality he blocks the shot.

This is strictly an error in the way the match viewer converts what's been fed to it by the game engine into game commentary. The box score (both within the viewer, and after the game) correctly attributes a missed shot to Pryor and a block to Avalos.

And while viewer bugs are, at least for me, by far the most annoying ones in BB, this problem is strictly presentational and does not affect the results of games.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 6/16/2010 7:38:29 PM

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Date: 6/17/2010 12:39:48 AM
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And while viewer bugs are, at least for me, by far the most annoying ones in BB, this problem is strictly presentational and does not affect the results of games.

And how can you be so sure of that? What was suppose to be the correct line? I'm trying to think real hard, but nothing that makes sense comes to mind.
I mean, no offense, I'm well aware that you know a way more about this subject than I do, but as far as I understood this is a brand new feature, so again, how can you be so positive? You even said it yourself that you're still awaiting on confirmation from BB. Besides, it's not like this is the first time game engine malfunctions, right? You have been here long enough; you know that very well.
I'm not a very technical guy, but I noticed that in this particular game my opponent had more blocks than in our previous two encounters combined. Now, don't you find that to be just a bit strange? Like just a bit? That in the game when this comment bug occurred for the very first time, and apparently as a part of implementing this new block feature, he has a more blocks then in our previous two encounters combined? I find it strange.

I don't know, man; I mean, am I upset to lose the game in a fashion I did? Yes, of course, I'm upset, I had both better team and home court advantage, BUT believe me, that is not the reason behind this particular complain, if this is even a complain (it's rather a mere pointing out at apparent malfunction in the game). And the loss really don't matter; what matters is the fact that something in the game was malfunctioning, and THAT makes the outcome of game questionable, no matter what you say.

I think the only fair solution would be to re-run the game. And, of course, to remove this new feature for now. I don't even understand why BB had to implement it this late in the season. Isn't the mid-season a perfect time to run tests?




Last edited by Mr. Hyde at 6/17/2010 12:57:45 AM

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146967.11 in reply to 146967.9
Date: 6/17/2010 6:03:41 AM
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Similar thing happened to me in my game early on, like you said it may just be a match viewer bug but in this case my player didn't block the shot the other player just missed it.

Also just btw i like the addition of the rebounds where sometimes it goes off a player and out or directly out etc.

But i do think that it shouldn't count as a TO if off a player as they haven't technically lost the ball they never really had control, just my thoughts

From: Kukoc

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Date: 6/17/2010 9:45:52 AM
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I don't exactly understand what are you complaining about. He CT-d you Normaled+ he got tactics spot on. I do not know either of your enthusiasm numbers, but his win was not even close to impossible, it might of even been probable.

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