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Height should be used during the game

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155798.2 in reply to 155798.1
Date: 9/1/2010 3:24:17 PM
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but it makes it nearly impossible to understand, and reflect it ;) In this case the technik training should have the same speed(which is hard to implement afterwards), and we get a struggle with the salary. A "real" Center who is 2.20 would be worth more then a 1.96, so he also could ask for higher salaries and it is hard to tell who is the better Center is it the 1.96 guy with prominent rebounding or the 2.20 guy with respectable etc.

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155798.3 in reply to 155798.2
Date: 9/1/2010 4:08:14 PM
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Yeah, shot blocking and other "tall" attributes I think are woven into the training equations. The really tall guy will be able to train at SB faster then the really short guy, but you need to earn the SB skill growth with training. You can't teach a player "height", but he still needs to work on his coordination and ability. A really tall but untrained player won't have timing, etc., and will miss a lot, foul a lot, etc., while even a short player who works hard at timing shots can get his blocks in, maybe not always at the top of an opponents shot, but perhaps on the way up. At 6'-4", Dwyane Wade averaged 1.06 blocks-per-game last season. That's pretty darn good for a guard.

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155798.4 in reply to 155798.3
Date: 9/2/2010 2:07:32 AM
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155798.5 in reply to 155798.4
Date: 9/2/2010 9:41:13 AM
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So that's how Wade gets all those blocks! He's just padding his stats!

So let's see, we have LeBron dunking on kids...
(http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5448600)
Now we have Wade as the basketball bully...

Anyone got a clip of Bosh picking on kids, too? At this rate, these guys are on pace to surpass the Detroit Piston Bad Boys as the most headed basketball team ever! Maybe Bill Laimbeer can be Pat Riley's assistant coach if he gets tired of coaching in Minnesota.

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155798.6 in reply to 155798.1
Date: 9/2/2010 9:59:44 AM
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If height had to be used in the game,you should insert all the other physyical skills that lacks in the game(for a precise choice of the BBs when they create the game)
And I don't think that this is possible,at this point of the development of the game

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Date: 9/3/2010 6:20:36 PM
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I think that height should affect block shots. If my center in 7'6" and i am playing against a center that is 6"6" , both with the same shot blocking level, my player should block more of his shots. I think that different training speed based on heights works fine i just think the game engine shot look at the players height when calculating blocked shots


I disagree, the different training speed for these skills take height into account. It does indirectly what you describe.

Besides that, your suggestion would mean there would be no bad blockers of 7'5", can't be what we want can it?

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Date: 9/4/2010 12:04:04 PM
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No, not good idea at all! We will face many situations like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwIAByDsDCE&feature=re...

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Date: 9/13/2010 5:37:29 PM
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Having height only effect training creates some counter-intuitive relationships in the game engine, but if works for this model/simulation or at least better than trying to incorporate it into both training and after the fact, into the game engine.

In real life, there are a number of attributes that might be physical constants that would effect a players performance: height, speed, wingspan, weight, width etc. But its a question of how deep should the simulation be.

Also, perhaps you've never seen a 7' 6" player that can't block a shot, because you've only seen player that height in the pros. But when I was in college, we had a player who was that tall (they took him as a project that they thought would develop, but he never did) and he was very uncoordinated -- his ability to rebound and block shot was minimal at best.



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155798.10 in reply to 155798.9
Date: 9/13/2010 9:56:25 PM
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Can't agree more with this thread. Definitely the height factor should show some (at least) effect on the GE. Taller player will still won Rebounds, Shotblocking, Insidescoring against shorter player with EQUAL SKILLSET.

At times i was anxious to think how can i strategically post up my big SF (6'8") against opponent SF (6'3") , but still end up with low percentage shooting. (Again, both player has the same sKillSet).

I also remembered reading somewhere that in our GE, taller player will get rebound better than shorter player (with same SKILLSET). If this is not true then I might banging my head to the wall... o_o...

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155798.11 in reply to 155798.10
Date: 9/14/2010 3:12:14 AM
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Can't agree more with this thread. Definitely the height factor should show some (at least) effect on the GE. Taller player will still won Rebounds, Shotblocking, Insidescoring against shorter player with EQUAL SKILLSET.


that right equal skillset means that a tall player have higher rebounding, else the smaller have the better technik and the big one the better ability ;) Or would you pay a center only how good he blocks out, instead of how much he really brings?