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162494.2 in reply to 162494.1
Date: 10/27/2010 4:17:06 PM
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It isn't very realistic for each team to have a seperate rival. The rivals are calculated based on complicated coding that takes in to account your previous seasons records and how you went against each team and point difference etc. It would simply be unrealistic to say that you cannot have more than 1 rival.

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162494.3 in reply to 162494.2
Date: 10/27/2010 5:38:35 PM
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The Rival issue I’ve always found to be a strange one. I’ve had the same Rival every season since joining my current league, but the pool guy’s been in the league longer than I have and so he’s played the other older teams more often and he stands no chance getting me as his Rival. He’s had objectively a better team than mine every time we’ve met, and yet I’ve beaten him 7 out of 9 times so far! 21% of my wins in this league have come against this same team! Why? Because I take these games so much more seriously than he does! And for some reason, this one team seems to be the most common team assigned as a rival to newly promoted teams.

I’m of two minds about this. On the one hand, I can see this being a realistic oddity. In the real world, rivalries are based on issues like geography and important games played. But there’s also notoriety involved, too. Having gone to the University of Texas (in case y’all have ever wondered about that “horn” part of my name), I am aware that every time the Texas football team plays anybody, it’s maybe the biggest win of the season for the other team if they can win it. (No comments on the number of these big wins against Texas this season, please, it’s a sore subject). But if this were BB, what teams would have Texas as their Rival? Texas A&M? For sure, this is the big in-state rival and the Texas game is the biggest of the season for the Aggies. Oklahoma? Definitely, even though they have Oklahoma State in an in-state rivalry, the Texas game is bigger and has more at stake (usually). But what about teams like Texas Tech or Baylor? Let’s face it, those programs might get a win every now and then, but I don’t think anybody would put those football programs on par with Texas, so maybe the fans don’t put as much emotional investment in the Texas game (as that would lead to typical disappointment). And yet, do those teams have a bigger Rival? Is there any other team that they’d rather beat? So maybe BB would make Texas their Rival, too? And what about a team from another conference like Nebraska. Golly, those fans wanted to beat Texas so bad this year you’d have thought they were Oklahoma! But Nebraska probably has a more traditional rival, so Texas probably doesn’t get the Rival label here. So let’s add this up. Texas would probably get Oklahoma as the Rival (sorry Aggies), but would be facing at least two other teams, and maybe as many as four other teams, who all think Texas is their Rival. (It’s truly an honor to when the other teams thinks it warrants tearing down the goal posts when they beat your team, no better way to express respect for a program.)

But, on the flip side, in BB is it really fair to set up teams to have to face this sort of pressure when the Rivalries are not exactly created by real-life sort of traditional rivalry factors? I know which team in my league really should be my rival since we have so many more similarities than I have with my actual Rival (both joined BB not too far apart in time, both climbed lower leagues at a similar rate, both tend maintain about the same total payroll, and I’m actually a bit jealous of the other team’s success!). I actually think that teams that promote at the same time should probably start out as Rivals, barring other factors (such as teams that have a history of playing against each other).

So if it was up to me, I’d think if any change was to be made to the Rival system, it would be to make teams promoting in the same season to the same conference as Rivals.

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162494.4 in reply to 162494.2
Date: 10/27/2010 5:48:33 PM
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It would simply be unrealistic to say that you cannot have more than 1 rival.


but i think the one directional rivalrys, are pretty uncommon at least i fail to find examples for it.



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162494.5 in reply to 162494.4
Date: 10/27/2010 6:00:54 PM
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I don´t mind if my rival is superior than my team. My problem is that two teams have ME as their rival. They will try to spend their enthusiasm an alineate their beter players to beat me as i do with my rival, but two teams doing that with me is more than i can afford. Last two seasons i ended 5th of my conference, i am not good enought to have two teams of eight in my conference doing special effords to beat me. With yust one it is enought.

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162494.6 in reply to 162494.5
Date: 10/27/2010 7:21:36 PM
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At least you know which teams will try and beat you, and that way you can concentrate on winning those games.

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162494.8 in reply to 162494.6
Date: 10/28/2010 2:32:52 AM
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At least you know which teams will try and beat you, and that way you can concentrate on winning those games.


but those teams will sacrifice more to win the games, maybe even their other game in the week or the following. And i don't think that my and his "non" rivals don't want to win against him but they don't have a extra motivation to sacrifice anything for the win.