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278000.2 in reply to 278000.1
Date: 3/18/2016 3:20:53 PM
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I'll start with some of the most obvious ones.

1. Make the transfer list viable at all levels.
2. Make older players' skills drop more slowly.
3. Make the draft relevant.

Those were easy and obvious. How about some more?

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Date: 3/18/2016 4:07:11 PM
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Don't fear honest discussion, Perpete. It may be the avenue to a better game.

So a third (active) thread to rehash the same things ?
I guess maybe because I'm not a supporter any more I don't get to see all the forum threads. Can you please direct me to the other two threads devoted to a discussion of playing the game many different ways? They do not appear in the forums I am able to see. Thank you.

Last edited by Mike Franks at 3/18/2016 4:10:54 PM

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Date: 3/18/2016 5:10:07 PM
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Don't fear honest discussion, Perpete. It may be the avenue to a better game.

So a third (active) thread to rehash the same things ?
I guess maybe because I'm not a supporter any more I don't get to see all the forum threads. Can you please direct me to the other two threads devoted to a discussion of playing the game many different ways? They do not appear in the forums I am able to see. Thank you.


Gladly!

Threads in this very forum where you have posted the exact same general complaint since March 10:
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No, Brutus, I don't think that can be it. There are supposed to be many, many ways to play this game. To force everyone to play the same way goes against what they say.

/sarcasm font off


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"They" like telling you there are almost an unlimited number of ways to play this game. Just not your way, with a $16,000 weekly profit.



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278000.6 in reply to 278000.4
Date: 3/18/2016 5:10:51 PM
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And now that I've responded to the request exactly, I'll add my own commentary.

You may also filter the first thread I listed for my posts to find a helpful reference to what BB-Marin has actually said about training, though I think I've already linked those posts several times and you still persist in misrepresenting them. C'est la vie, non? Heck, I'll even direct link it too:
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Now, if you'd like, I'd be happy to change this thread's title as a friendly gesture to something like "Post the same thing a lot of different ways" which, as you know, is really what this thread is about.

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Date: 3/18/2016 5:22:47 PM
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I was more thinking about "Is BB dying a slow death - Part Two" as one of the two. 1130 messages and going, that has to be noticeable.


Yeah, but he hasn't posted on that topic or any other in that thread for a couple of months, so I can understand not immediately recognizing it.

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Date: 3/19/2016 2:09:59 AM
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I will request that you two stop clowning around and get back on topic, which to refresh your memory is:
What do you think it would take to actually make it possible for there to be a lot of different ways to compete to win basketball games on this site?

You can't really be so terrified of an honest discussion that you are compelled to hijack the thread, are you? Why not delete your off-topic posts and let this thread get to some constructive discussion. Thank you.

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Date: 3/19/2016 8:22:00 AM
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I will request that you two stop clowning around and get back on topic, which to refresh your memory is:
What do you think it would take to actually make it possible for there to be a lot of different ways to compete to win basketball games on this site?

You can't really be so terrified of an honest discussion that you are compelled to hijack the thread, are you? Why not delete your off-topic posts and let this thread get to some constructive discussion. Thank you.


An honest discussion? That would be interesting. The way this generally goes is you have a spurt of swipes that the BB economy / transfer prices are this way because the BB staff is intentionally doing that, as part of a plan to make it so that the only way to do anything in this game is to train. I point out links to BB-Marin's actual words on the topic, which as you are well aware, were that they were trying to make sure training is valued as well because the old paradigm was that players were cheaply and freely available. I also remind you that these trained players must come from somewhere, and a game environment where people don't want to train themselves but want to harvest the players from the TL, and at low prices, isn't sustainable unless there are a lot of old teams quitting and dumping their players into the pool. I point out that training could be changed, just not the way you seem to advocate, and then your "honest discussion" consists of not bothering to elaborate or discuss further and repeating the whole cycle from scratch in different thread(s) a week or two later.

But on the specific notion that there aren't a lot of different ways to win - my honest answer is that there still are. Teams can be built in many different ways and be successful. Teams can be built primarily through training and succeed, can be built through transfer acquisitions and succeed. You can be successful with a cookie cutter inside team, or with a heavy shotblocking focused team (see LA-Manon's run), or with an outside shooting team. They're not all equally *easy* and none of them are independent of a manager's skill in the game, so a talented manager can likely thrive with many different team concepts, while less competent ones will find that no matter what they do, they're not capable of moving past a certain ceiling. Such is life.

For what it's worth, it's absolutely been possible to not prioritize training and move up - I had to look to find the team again because I forgot what league they had ended up in, but Valhalla! (28218) in the USA was a team that went from V to II through three straight promotions, with training not at a significant component of his team. He then walked away from the game in his second season in II. If you're on the USA offsite forum the team diary is still there, and it was definitely an interesting way of approaching the game. I also imagine that if he showed up here today and started in V, he'd be in II again within four seasons, because the guy just had the knack for what he was doing.

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278000.11 in reply to 278000.9
Date: 3/19/2016 9:14:40 AM
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Still don't get how you think training is king?? Have a look at any d2 team upwards in BB and I bet you no more than 2 of their starting five are homegrown players...

The rest will have been bought either fully trained or nearly fully trained. So how is training king?

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