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I can't speak for everyone, but frankly If I'm going to put money into BB, I will actively buy supporter as I did for 2-3 years before I became busy with college. Supporter is a bit pricy in my opinion, but helps BB and I plan on buying supporter again very soon.

I think that the goal should be to get more people wanting to buy supporter rather than trying to get people to donate. In the big scheme of things, there are not that many users that have supporter from the entire BB community.

If we simply get 100 more people to buy a full year of supporter for BB, that is $3,000 and already eclipses what all the donations have been.

An App is currently in the process of being made. I would expect the app to come out within the next two-three seasons at the latest, but I also dunno how long it takes to make an app.

If I buy a prepaid visa for $30 is that enough for the paypal option or is there a fee?

The PayPal option I believe you can just input your credit or debit card directly. That's what I did at least. You shouldn't have to buy a separate card for it.

The reason why people aren't playing the game is because to fully develop a top quality player takes 3 years of real life. It doesn't really matter if they had $20,000. People will join, pump the user base back up to 60k like it was before, and people will realize they need so long to develop a new player and leave.

Sadly, I don't have a fix to this solution. Devs don't have a fix to this solution. It's how the game was structured some 12 years ago and hasn't changed a bit. I don't know of another game where progress is so slow, this requires a patient userbase. Sadly in this era we all want a new 2K or madden game every year and we want fast player development. Thats not possible on BB, so people leave.

Advertising won't change much, some people will stick around, but the majority will leave.

4X pace separate server would be a good solution; 4weeks a season. It is still alot. I could do 16X pace

Last edited by Vilkai [LTU NT] at 5/22/2019 3:48:47 PM

I think that is part of the fun. I wouldn't give a single crap about training players if it didn't take any time or effort. The process and having the same players for many seasons is what makes this game fun and what makes this game realistic. To end that aspect of the game would be an absolute f***ing shame.

I can promise you if BB switches to training players are 3x speed than what they are right now, everyone would start creating 21 year old monsters and I would probably leave. I love that BB rewards managers who have patience and have a process.

It also doesn't take 3 years. I assume you are talking about training a HOF player for the NT from 18 years of age. That is the only thing that makes sense with your timeline. Every season is roughly 3 months. So you are talking about doing 12 seasons of training, which implies you are training someone until they are 30. Hardly anyone does that.

To create and train a player that can start in D.II or D.I you really only need to train them for about 7 seasons, not 12. Sure you can always make them better, but at age 25-26, if you have trained them well, they should be able to start or at least play substantial minutes in the NBBA.

You can train a player that can start in D.III in the USA in 3 seasons. Many of the 21 year old U21 NT players could start in D.III and be a role player/start in D.II by the age of 22-23. When you look at it that way, I think the training process makes sense.

This is not a game for people who want the same speed as 2k. BB doesn't need to change their identity. They just need to advertise more and reach more people who love the manager styled aspect, and I know there are plenty of people out there who do love BB and would love BB if they knew about the site.

I'm not necessarily saying its a bad thing, hell I've been around on and off for 32 seasons now myself, I love it! But the amount of patient people searching for old clunky online web games are very slim. The younger population is gonna be swayed away from the old design and pacing, the older population likely isn't searching for random online basketball manager games. Thus the population is slim and limited.

You want a real change, don't spend the money on advertising. Pay a gaming web dev $10,000 and have them fix up how the site looks. This will at least make the game more aesthetically pleasing and get more of the younger audience involved.

As far as pace, maybe start up a second new server where everyone gets their entry 300k and we start fresh but with faster seasons. You'd need to reword how GS works and tweak a few monetary things, but it would work. Would everyone play it, no, but would it have a better retention rate then what exists now, absolutely.

An app is a good idea, i'll need to see how they implement and advertise, but pacing is still gonna be a problem and I see a second server as a feasible solution that many other web games have done.