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Just a quick mock up about the solution:

First stage - 8 groups of 6 teams, 5 matches per team, 3 per group moves to the next stage, 24 teams total

Second stage - 4 groups of 6 teams, 5 matches per team, 2 per group moves to the quarter finals, 8 teams total

Playoff stage - Quarterfinals, semifinals and finals, 3 matches max.


Personally I would like to see quarterfinals too because what's better than playoff matches. This solution would allow quarter finals to be added while not adding extra games. 13 matches total would allow us to get rid of that extra Friday semifinal as well. 13 match season alongside with adding quarterfinals would allow the 'playoff-hype' to last 3 weeks instead of 1. I've always felt like the playoffs were very rushed so this would be a good solution to that as well.

Although just an idea, seems like this would make a lot of sense to me and would allow many countries to continue their competitive season at least 3 matches longer.

I don't think you are aware of that but in Asia and America they have a week "bye" because the first round is composed by 3 pools of 7. So in fact america teams and asia teams play a maximum of 13 games for 14 in Europe.

I'm not sure the continental tournaments need a change, it's a minor priority in my mind, because I'm not sure to understand why it's unfair for Europe. We have the same number of countries in the second round and we have one more game in the first round that in Asia and America (Africa has more but comparing Africa and Europe is not relevant). Of course there are more teams out after the first round but I don't see why it's a problem.

And if something has to be changed it's not in Europe but in Asia and America to remove the week "bye". And the only way to achieve that is to remove countries.

Joe

Why do you assume that I'm unaware of it? I wrote that most of the teams on these continents will have 11 games, which are 6 on the first stage and 5 on the second one.

There are 4 times more team out after the first round. Which hurt experience gain, make half of the season extremely boring for 75% of the teams in Europe, and also hurt the level of the second round itself. The second round repeatedly is missing some of the best teams in the continent due to the very weird build we have. On every European championship there are few weaker teams that get to the second stage where they have nothing to sell just because they used their enthusiasm to even get there, while better teams stays out. Every single time. I don't see it as a good structure. I have nothing against those teams of course, I did the same thing few seasons back and will do it again if I'll have to. But I do want the best teams on the later stages, and it's not the situation.

And by the way, if you'll increase the number of teams on the second teams those weaker teams will still get there, but without having to spend ent and to get in a much weaker position. They might be even able to pull some surprises and get a medal, which just never happens on this build. So it's a build that let underdogs get to the prestige second stage on the expense of contenders, just to do nothing there.

I think that the 2nd round in europe is quite competitive usually and might be just where it should be.

I also don't think you can overlook the amount of NT in europe that play 7 games and nothing else after that.
You have 36 teams that do that.

Best solution the way I see it, since I don't want to change the current 1st and 2nd round because I think its very competitive for most NTs, is a small tournament for all these 36 teams. It will also be very competitive because weak teams will have more weak teams to play against, and very weak teams will have more games against very weak teams.

This way you keep the great competitive structure we have now in europe(don't know how competitive it is in other places) and you also create another great environment for competitive games for weak and weaker teams.

I actually don't think it's as competitive as it could have been, far from it actually. That is due to the fact that many good teams are being eliminated while weaker ones use their ent to get there. I shared the statistics about the last 3 championships. I'm willing to bet this kind of stuff never happens on America or on Asia. And just look at the second stage of the European championship this year. No need to go far. Just today on the flawless competitive second round - One team lost by 49 points, another team lost by 26 points, and another one lost with CT against TIE. The Tieing team Actually lost by 46 points two weeks ago and 25 points a week ago. Such great competitive matches.

Last edited by Bill_tipesh at 12/20/2021 5:55:43 PM