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64140.2 in reply to 64140.1
Date: 12/13/2008 8:26:46 PM
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Height is factored into their skill sets.

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64140.3 in reply to 64140.1
Date: 12/13/2008 10:52:52 PM
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Height is only important for training speed!
For example, 220 cm player will train faster than 180 cm player in rebounding, inside defense, blocads, etc... But if 220 cm player and 180 cm player have the same skil for rebounding, 220 cm player will NOT rebound better than 180 cm player!
It's stupid, but thats how it is! I hope this will change in the future!

Last edited by Svinjogojstvo at 12/13/2008 10:53:12 PM

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64140.4 in reply to 64140.3
Date: 12/14/2008 6:02:02 AM
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I must say that changing it seems stupid.

Today I know that my respectable rebounder is respectable no matter what since his height is already calculated into his skillset.

From: ogran

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64140.5 in reply to 64140.4
Date: 12/14/2008 12:50:30 PM
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yeah, but it's not realistic... a 7'5 poor rebounding center will rebound better against a 6' center than a 7'10 center simply because of the height difference. that's why sometimes yao gets tons of rebounds and sometimes he gets almost none

From: CrazyEye

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64140.6 in reply to 64140.5
Date: 12/14/2008 1:01:26 PM
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Yao is a weak rebounder?

And in the german first league, there is an 1.84m Center who is in the top 3 of the best rebounders since some seasons, he is pretty skilled but because he is that small he don't reach the level of NBA and stacks in weaker german leagues ;)

Same things happen with 1.80 Centers in BB, in a normal league they will train trained center and they are mostly "high" because they train faster and reach more easily high levels.

In lower leagues there is pretty usually that small athletic guys catch more rebound then big and slow guys ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 12/14/2008 1:02:20 PM

From: ogran

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64140.7 in reply to 64140.6
Date: 12/14/2008 1:25:17 PM
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yao's not necessarily a weak rebounder, but he def struggles against larger centers because size matters.

i'm not talking about the skill of a player, i'm talking about the innate advantage height brings. in this game two players can be "respectable" in rebounding but if one is 7' and the other is 6' then when they play against each other the 7' should have an advantage.

From: CrazyEye

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64140.8 in reply to 64140.7
Date: 12/14/2008 1:34:28 PM
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but 7 is pretty weak, and normally the young giants aren't in the shape off the smaller one(movement accuracy(bad description but i hope that works), speed and jump Power) ...

Yeah they got also the advantage off the height, so wehen they stop grwowing and works on their feets they getting better then the small ones ... but till that times, the smaller ones will often drive around then and they throw over the heads of the small ones. So the advantage becomes part of the game through the development of the player, which ain't far away from the reality.

Normal centers wouldn't have respectable Rebound they will have profient + when you play this game longer, the same is for the other main skills.


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64140.9 in reply to 64140.3
Date: 12/14/2008 1:39:22 PM
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But height is factored into the skill. If you had a 220 cm guy and a 180 cm guy both with proficient rebounding and you remove the height factor then the short guy will still be proficient and the tall guy might be respectable or something.

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64140.10 in reply to 64140.9
Date: 12/14/2008 2:22:21 PM
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again, i'm not talking about raw skill, i'm talking about matchup. the same tall guy will rebound better against shorter players than taller player no matter what the other guys raw skills are. my example would be the same guy would look proficient against a short guy but respectable against a tall guy regardless of the skill of the other guy

From: CrazyEye

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64140.11 in reply to 64140.10
Date: 12/14/2008 2:25:59 PM
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ok we talk about matchups, a better rebounder will catch more rebounds then a weaker one ...

Now you could count that back, and you got the skills in the BB which include both factors.

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