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16515.20 in reply to 16515.16
Date: 2/27/2008 7:43:00 AM
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I think yanivsag makes an interesting point here! It is not about how much one sells but rather it is about the percentages. It does seem that in the initial arena's of 5000 seats the sourtside seats ratio is mostly undervalued. If this research can determine the ratio's than a decent arena can be built. Of course there will always be fluctuations in spectators due to changing performances but if ratio's are applied you at least make a rational decision to maximize profits based on a solid argument.

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16515.21 in reply to 16515.19
Date: 2/27/2008 8:22:58 AM
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Since you mean 'season ticket holders' you should remember the number of season ticket holders does not change during the season.

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16515.23 in reply to 16515.21
Date: 2/27/2008 8:58:09 AM
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Since you mean 'season ticket holders' you should remember the number of season ticket holders does not change during the season.

okay, have it your way... ;)

season ticket holders = fanbase at the start of the season.
Season ticket holders does not change during the season, but fanbase is!
Your crowd depends on your fanbase.

Hope I get it correct this time!

Further, there is no set % for the seats like in Hattrick, here your higher priced seats will sell about the same every game, while your lower cost seats vary from selling out 1 evening, and staying half empty the other evening.

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16515.24 in reply to 16515.23
Date: 2/27/2008 7:48:28 PM
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season ticket holders = fanbase at the start of the season.
Season ticket holders does not change during the season, but fanbase is!
Your crowd depends on your fanbase.


I'm not picking on you, but can you show me where the rules refer to this?

If it is there, I would like to know more about it.

I cannot find any reference to anything like this in the rules.

I do understand that crowds fluctuate with wins, but I don't see where 'fanbase' is explained.

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16515.25 in reply to 16515.24
Date: 2/27/2008 8:10:35 PM
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I don't think season ticket holders = fanbase at the start of the season. The season ticket holders are the diehard fans that will come to your games no matter how good our badly you are playing. Everyone else comes based on how well you are playing.

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16515.26 in reply to 16515.25
Date: 2/27/2008 8:11:26 PM
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Speaking of season ticket holders, wouldn't they pay for their season ticket packages at the beginning of the season, rather than game by game?

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16515.27 in reply to 16515.25
Date: 2/27/2008 8:15:43 PM
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I don't think season ticket holders = fanbase at the start of the season.


I agree, but what is fanbase? I keep asking, because I do not see any official rules reference to this concept. Absent any official reference, I do not think it is wise to talk about fanbase when we don't know what it is, nor if it even exists.

Winning brings in more fans, losing cuts into that. How is that 'fanbase'?

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16515.29 in reply to 16515.28
Date: 2/27/2008 11:41:44 PM
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Yes, fan base is not an official term. People use the term fan base in a general way to describe people who come to the games.

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16515.30 in reply to 16515.29
Date: 2/28/2008 6:29:52 AM
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in my believe fanbase is a factor which is used in the calculation of the crowds entering your arena.

Then from my own experience:
Notice it is steadily growing when you perform well on average. You can see this by checking out your luxury boxes sales. At least in my case this is growing slow, but steady. (unless you highten your ticketprice ofcourse) because they are less depending on your wins or losses.
Except for the fanbase, which is the basic factor, there is also a factor of win/loss wich goes into the calculation, and has most effect on the lowest priced seats.

Do I dare write the next thing, ... hm, yes, let me go for it:
I'm taking another wild guess here, so don't ask me to show you where I got it, it comes out of my head:
basic crowd uses fanbasefactor, that is your crowd you will have for your next homegame in a certain percentage for every type of seat. Then , if you won your last game (or maybe it looks at last few games, effect get bigger if it was a TV game) you get extra crowds: a lot for lowest cost seats, many for second lowest cost sets, some or a few for the second highest cost seats, and none (or 1, or maybe a few??) for luxury boxes.

If you consistently get more wins than losses over a period of time, you fanbase will grow. If you perform badly and get more losses, your fanbase will probably shrink. I also think the division you play in, might have an influence on this growth, but I'm totally unsure of that.

It is just a theory, based on my experience so far. People who are interested could try to verify it, or might collect facts to break it down.

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