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Come on, Joe...at the end off the season you still will be the champion.
This is only a game and we all want to win anyway.
For you ...(shit happens) it's a bad feeling. But understand...everyone wants to knock the champ down.
(this is how it is ,and it's no knife in the back...or did you guys had an agreement ?)

As for Revo...I still think, even when he 'crunched', he did something some of us are afraid to do .
Joe, you are the strongest and we need to find some ways to overcome this. (or the cowboys will be champion forever)

Joe and Revo....In BB you are two guys I'm looking up too. (two of the most interesting managers)
So ......although we are only 'virtual acquaintances'...keep having in mind: Life is too short to be angry !

Greetings and try to enjoy the game.

I wasn't intending on comming back here today. But their are some things that need to be said:

1) i'd like to ask nobody to react anymore on the CT, not untill i've had a chance to have a decent chat with Joe. Both me and Joe are grown ups, we'll be able to talk it out.

2) concerning the NT:

a) i made a miscalculation in my last scrimmage, so yeah, it's wasted data. If all the GS had been reset ( which i was counting on) it would have been usefull

b) about Biermans: i've mailed his manager that i need to see that he can be kept in shape. If your shape goes from 8 to 6 and slowely back ot 8, then to 6, then you are a pretty useless players. You'r only good to come off the bench in that case, and considering the limited spots on the NT team, i can better give that spot to someone else. I have however mailed his manager that if he can succesfully manage his GS in the first few weeks of this season, that i will be taking him into the NT. The fact that his manager hasn't managed his minutes well, is the only reason that is keeping Biermans of the NT. Once his minutes are under controle, he'll be in the NT, no doubt about that. however, end of last season, when i updated all the players i got this from his manager:

En debut de saison, c'est dur les minutes: ca veut dire pas de match de coupe, et parfois il a deja trop en 2 matches :-(

That still shows that his minutes still isn't under control. Are you willingly telling me to select players who can't control their GS?

c) About Ottevaere, Reyngoudt and Lussu: i'll explain myself after the NT game. It's a pretty simpel test that i've been meaning to try out for a while, but i couldn't cause they never were in shape. Since all the shape has been reset, i should be able to test it out on monday, and that is why they'll be playing. Futhermore, you should add Beckaert to the list of names i've mentioned earlier on.

@Joe: i'm online tonite ( no party since we didn't win RL) so if you want to chat, i'm their. i'll still be around for another hour or so ( bear in mind, i still gotta eat)

Ladies and gentlemen,

Finally, it has arrived: the SEASON 20 PREVIEW!

This season, the BBBL will be saying goodbye to 3 veterans: BBC Pokola, BC Tienen and Phoenix Suns (dang, you've been in the BBBL for games Sum... snif). Futhermore, we'll also be saying a temprorary goodbye to KV Forever, but considering that he's keeping his 600k salary mass, i expect him to be back real soon. Never the less, i wish all of those who go down the best of luck, but i got a gut feeling that we won't be seeing back one of the 4 descendants...
The reappearing faces are: BBC Falco Gent from II.1 and Obira Dragons from II.4 . The New BBBL faces (who will be making their first BBBL appearances this season) are The Radiations from II.2 and my former divisionbuddy Royal Canin from II.3. Questions remain to be seen if any of the promoting guy's will be able to stick around. But more on that on the individual team presentations.

Form a change, i'll start off by introducing to you, the teams in the strongest conference: Great 8 conference

Basket Mizu Arlon(89902)
Last seasons achievement: First spot in the Great 8 division and the latest manager to add his name to the shortlist which contains the likes of Sum, JoeMaverick, GM-LoD and a few priviledge others that have won atleast one BBBL!
salary: 837 577$ for 15 players
Information: HALLALUYAH! We got a new champion. BBBL was getting boring with the domination of Vottem Cowboys. At long last, someone has managed to beat Vottem Cowboys, and that while having a less ammount of salary to go around with! Will Coach Q be able to repeat the feat? You know what they say: never change a winning team. Add to the mix that Mizu should still be in the green zone ( which can't be said for all teams in our league) and you can be sure that Mizu will be aiming to bag atleast one more trophy this season, be it the cup or the league!
prognosis Battle for the top seed with Vottem Cowboys as usual. However, Vottem has dedicated last season to training and will be out looking for redemption after his streak of winning the BBBL 6 times was snapped. Salary could however be a problem for Vottom, but knowing that vottem has an ammazing ammount of merchandise, i'm going to go with Mizu being defeated in the conference finals by the former champs (thus being second in Great 8)

Stonestars(37411)
Last seasons achievement: 6th and PD victory after 3 games with the unlucky BC Tienen.
salary: 770 266$ for 16 players
Information: Home to Belgian top frontcourt players Gallagher and De Neef as well as the very promissing PG Viktor Titeux, Stonestars should be ready for a good season. However, with Titeux nearing his hardcap and considering the age of Kurt Votaga, who has anchored down that SF spot for so long, you got to wonder where the Stonestars will go. An early cup exit could spice things up for the division, but what Stonestars really need, is a new SF or stretched PF who can play the SF for them. Big question tho is where are they going to get the money from. Bigs don't sell very well, so i sure hope Steonstars has some kind of economical backbone to help them out getting that new player... Never the less, when stonestars put things on the line, they are a team to reckon with. They have a top frontcourt duo as usual, and have some fine guards in the back to help their frontcourt out and feed them with easy passes. If only the manager would understand that using his own teams best strength could really put him in a situation to win the league, they he could be a contender for the title ( maybe not the favorite, but a contender never the less...)
prognosis Considering that he usually aims for long cupruns, i'm going to slot him into 5 position in the league. However, his spot in the division could improve in the event of an early cup exit.

Vottem Cowboys (37519)
Last seasons achievement: Failed to defend their title ( for the first time) ending second in the league and being bounced in the conference final against Mizu Basket.
salary: 970 486$ for 15 players
Information: With a top ammount of Belgian talent on the roster ( altho i don't need to introduce em, i'll just do it anyway, so that our new guy's know their names) who are Belgian NT PG Thys, former Belgian NT SG Gilmont, Belgian NT SG Vercaigne and Belgian NT PF Mees, we all know to well that Vottem has top team. Add to that the fact that their is a second PF running around on the floor (a Polish player who listen to the name of Gumulinski) allong with top developping PF talent such as Pupovac, Quanyi and former Englands U21 Marshall (who should be set to have a great futur with the English NT if Vottem keeps training him according to my sources), it is easely to see why Vottem is considered to be Mizu's main challenge for the title in season 20! But will he be able to defeat the current champs? If he can keep this roster together, he should have a good chance at doing so. But considering that he's pulling 970k salary, i wouldn't be surprized to see a couple of players to be sold to lighten the burden of the financial end, unless if Vottem is having a shot at the B3 championship this season...
prognosis Vottem wouldn't have bought that Polish PF last season if he wasn't going to keep him. He should have known that his salary would be this high, and considering the ammount of belgians Vottem has on his team ( which translates in alot of merchandise revenue) he defo starts as the big favorite to become the champion of season 20 (and who knows, he might be able to become the B3 champ this season aswell...)

Estrellas Absurdas (89923)
Last seasons achievement: 7th and PD victory against Pokola in 2 games!
salary: 741 297$ for 19 players
Information: This team is managed by GM-Angi, one of the 2 only female managers in the BBBL! however 19 players on a roster is just to much. Futhermore, it is well known that Angi is replacing her none belgian players with Belgian players, and thus she should be considered as a team in rebuild mode. Each season, things look bad for her, and somehow, she just keeps grinding it out and stays a float in the BBBL. That just goes to show how well she has build her team. Last season, she might have caught a break wby facing Pokola in teh regulation series, but still, she's got a good team to show for which is pretty balanced out. She also always manages to last long in the cup, and so her league results sometimes suffer from it. Altho her starting 5 might not be as impressing as the other BBBL teams, her bench is second to only Vottem ( if Vottem keeps his entire team together that is). Question is, is a good bench enough to make up for the lack of star line-ups which Angi has? Only time will tell.
prognosis Battle for the 6th spot with BBC Falco. I'm going to give Angi the edge because of her experience.

BBC Falco Gent (89651)
Last seasons achievement: promotion from II.1
salary: 552 937$ for 16 players
Information: With former Belgian NT player Lex Francaart leading the team, you have to say that Falco has a completely different squad than he usually has when he comes up to the BBBL. However, considering the age on his top 5 player (30y, 30y, 29y, 29y and 33y) Falco is facing the challenge of having to rejuvinate his roster fast! Because it won't be long before Lex Francaart starts to lose some of his once wonderfull capabilities... Also, Falco is once again the unlucky guy, promoting into the strongest side of the BBBL... he's going to have to be fighting to avoid being regulated thru Play downs, but the good news is that he's certain not to be ending on the last spot...
prognosis 7th spot with Play down series that could go either way.

Seatle SuperSonics (37410)
Last seasons achievement: 4th position and first round exit against Mizu
salary: 747 025$ for 12 players
Information: Last season kinda seemed a bitt of a dissapointment for the SuperSonics... However, knowing that manager Naux is very bussy in RL could be an explanation for their up and down preformances. Let us hope that the Sonics will be able to have a more stable season this time around. They've kept their team intact, which now has an equal ammount of NT players as Vottem Cowboys ( PG Hupez, SG Verelst and PF Beckers). It certainly should be a team to be reckoned with. Add to the mix the army of SF's that Sonics has, and you know that your players are bound to be facing a bad match-up in a lot of games!
prognosis Battling for 3rd place with Les Popotams. Considering the strength and the economical state of both teams, i'm going to give the edge to the Sonics.

Les popotams (37368)
Last seasons achievement: 3rd and first round exit against Vottem
salary: 723 792$ for 15 players
Information: This team is the second team in the BBBL that is managed by another charming lady. She goes by the name of Bibou and has managed to build a pretty solid team. Last season she made the PO's and managed to come in 3rd in the division, but if the Sonics are able to bring a constant effort this season, she should slip into 4th seed this season. Her start players on her team are swedish international Gustav Svensson and backourt duo Svebor Barišic and Li Pingxian.
prognosis depends on Sonics consistency this season. But if we compare the teams without involving the activety of the managers, then Les Popotams should come in 4th.


Antwerp Angels (37519)
Last seasons achievement: 5th spot
salary: 331 072$ for 12 players
Information: Team in full rebuilding mode, that will likely still add one, maybe 2 18y old players to his roster for training purposes. Aim this season is to get the first draft pick and gather whatever cash can be gathered to rebuild in II and then move back to the BBBL. Revo will be hoping for a decent cup run this season to spice his economical income even more and once the cup is over, Players will most likely be forced to play to many minutes, in order to gain more experience for the futur. However, with the arrival of Marichal, Angels poses a weapon that could help them win a couple of games if needed, especially when it comes down to the cup games...
prognosis 8th spot and direct regulation.

So far for the Great 8 conference. And These are the teams in the Big 8 conference:

Amenra (37305)
Last seasons achievement: 2nd in Big 8, Semi conference exit against Ventola
salary: 721 810$ for 15 players
Information: Ever since comming into the BBBL, Amenra keeps surprizing everyone with their results and their season endings. With a team that includes big talents such as Belgian duo Jean Fradet or Ronald Van Der Haegen and the italian duo Borro and Arcais, Amenra is bound to make alot of noise at the head of the table
prognosis 2nd position, behind Boes.

B. Liège Basket (89663)
Last seasons achievement: 5th spot
salary: 712 124$ for 16 players
Information: It's unclear what Kevin wants to do. He's attempt to sell Hugo Cepeda, David Patoul and Loddo, which are his belgian nucleus players... If he would keep his team together, no doubt that he'll need something extra. but is selling his entire belgian part of the team really the answer?
prognosis If Liege hangs on to his Belgian players, he should be able to secure a PO spot, probably the 3rd seed.

Boes (89649)
Last seasons achievement: 3rd spot, first round exit against Amenra
salary: 829 534$ for 13 players
Information: It's hard to forsee what Boes will be like. Scotty has done a major roster overhaul, which has resulted in the leave of: PG Mugur Pelin, SG Aleandro Camanducaia, C Tomáš Chmelar. They were replaced by: PG Jared Wilkinson, SG Luis Túpac Yupanqui ( a peruvian monster SG) and C Zhu Haiguang allong with international Guard Van Sundert of luxembourg ( tho he's most likely only going to be comming off the bench...) However, the rebuilded roster looks really solid and Boes really has an opportunity to go the distance (till the PO finales that is, cause with Powerhouses Vottem Cowboys and Mizu Basket lurking for the title, it's unlikely that Boes will be able to defeat them, unless more players are added to this already impressive team.
prognosis 1rst seed in conference

Obira Dragons (89740)
Last seasons achievement: promotion from II.4
salary: 660 388$ for 16 players
Information: the Dragons are back once again, and they are still deperately trying to incoporate some Belgian talent. They haven't been very succesfull at doing so, however, those who keep trying, will eventually get what they wanted. Obira's starting 5 looks very decent and should be strong enough to compete with the other BBBL teams. Also, Obira has the potential to cause a real upset in Big 8 conference. They'll be fighting for the 5th spot, but might be able to even aim for a PO spot with this roster. With a healthy economy, aswell as waiting for those belgian players to arrive, Obira is bound to be hanging around for a while.
prognosis I'm going to say 6th seed, tho they could end up as high as 3rd in the division aswell. Big 8 is very open for spots 3 through 6, and if anyone has the potential to cause an upset, it's Obira. 3rd to 6th spot will be determined by details, such as GS and keeping players injury free. Should be fun to follow Obira's performance this season.


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Royal Canin (90510)
Last seasons achievement: promotion from II.3 (after a very special PO series their)
salary: 471 120$ for 9 players
Information: much to the surprize of many people, Royal Canin beat all odds by promoting instead of Dossers or Bavi Vilvoorde, who were the season 19 favorites in II.3 However, it's pretty clear that the team wasn't ready to play in the BBBL yet, so Bradok is going to try and learn as much as possible this season while saving up alot of cash, so that he can rebuild a solid team to come back into the distant futur. Never the less, congratulations to Rayol Canin. This season should be a good experience for RC, who will know what it takes to play in the BBBL when they go back down to II next season.
prognosis Battle with Radiation to avoid the last spot. Advantage RC considering that Radiation is selling their entire team.

the mumu boys (89926)
Last seasons achievement: 5th
salary: 711 324$ for 16 players
Information: Last season, Mumu had a rought start, but ended up on the 5th spot, just missing out on the PO's due to a loss against the already certain to be relegated Suns. However, before that last game, Mumu had the 3rd seed and was looking BBBL PO bound for the first time in their history. Will they be able to take part in their first BBBL PO's this season? With international Oli Georgiev, allong side with Modesto Gross, they should once again be an inside force to be reckoned with. However, with only 1 strong guard, will their inside be able to make up for their seemingly sloppy outside defense?
prognosis Battling for 4th spot. Might slip to 5th, depending on how Ventola rebuilds his team

The Radiations (37408)
Last seasons achievement: Losing Po finalist against Vottem Cowboys, after finishing second in Big 8 and eliminating Seatle SuperSonics in the conference finals
salary: 474 808$ for 11 players
Information: Just like RC, Radiation is in the BBBL for the first team. However, considering that they are attempting to sell their entire team, it's hard to forsee what their real intensions are. Most likely, they'll be going back to II with a large ammount of cash. Let us just hope that they don't end up with a salary below the salary floor, since that would be a waste of cash. However, their might be a slight chance that they will retool to put up a fight to stay in the BBBL. Consiering how strong Great 8 conference is, they should try and steer clear of the regulations games, which is going to be an incredible hard thing to do. Never the less, congratulations on joining the big boy's and let us hope that you'll learn a lot during your stay.
prognosis battling with RC to avoid direct regulation. Advantage RC since radiation is selling of their entire team.

Ventola (89684)
Last seasons achievement: 1rst spot, vice-champion
salary: 494 613$ for 14 players
Information: It's pretty clear that Jonas is rebuilding his team. He's trying to add Belgian talent to his roster for the longterm plan. However, he'll have to face concurrention from the Angels aswell as Obira, who still are trying to recrute their own belgium player! Anyhow, he has held onto Frank Terrible aswell as De Piano and Manuel Irarrázaval so Ventola still remains a team to be reckoned with!
prognosis 5th seed