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I'm glad the off site helped you but you are aware you could very easily relegate from both of those. As I stated, I double promoted to DivIII then relegated after a season. I guess that makes me a terrible manager.

On the bright side, though, that season you got to be one of those teams who's CT'd me out of the Cup and ended up demoting. I'm sure the $50k was sweet though, and made a real difference for you the next season.

I know we threw one of those games for a better matchup in the semis. Another thrown game was because we already had made the next round and were saving ENT and hiding the tactic that gave us the W in that next round. Spoon wasn't in that conversation so he didn't know that. His vote is his business and that's where it begins and ends for me.

My 2 cents in this convo is that he brings up a valid point. The offsite community was very fraternal and condescending in the past. I dubbed them the dreaded "Cult of LI" and had my own share of flame wars there with them. Heated debates ended up as mental standstills. In several instances one with admin privileges deleted my posts. Eventually we just agreed to keep a respectful distance.

For several seasons, I mainly just logged in to use the tools. I was still interested in training and NT development though. I began to scout for micronations and help them save and train players. I'd at one point become a U21 coach for Bahamas and pull them out of last place in the world before losing re-election......but that's another story. :)

Now, due to heavy promotion and recruitment, the offsite is full of new blood and ideas. As someone else said, the GDP has forced USA to change out of a pure LI pipeline. Some of the old guard are no longer around, others are no longer as vocal. The culture there has opened up quite a bit and I would encourage Spoon to give it another chance when he feels he is ready.

@Spoon - Please don't mistake the passion for the offsite and the US21's season as a mob attack. We all participated in the team and invested much time and effort to which EBW was very receptive. I attended what games I could. It was a great experience watching the comeback in the finals with all the other managers. Though we trolled Spain's chat pretty hard, at the end of the game we all congratulated them and each other. It was a great example of the passion, camaraderie, and sportsmanship that team competition has the potential for.

That experience was the most memorable in all my 12 seasons in BB. Though EBW wasn't able to see the end of the game, he saw how many managers were brought together to cheer on the team and support his efforts.

If the day ever comes that you feel ready to give the offsite another chance, the door is always open. I look forward to your contribution.

Last edited by Mix at 7/21/2014 2:35:36 AM

This is what I wanted to say but I was kinda of a prick about it. Sorry.

I do not approve of Spoonerific as a manager until he goes undefeated in the NBBA.

Don't take Spoonerific too seriously. He was a decent guy back in the day despite his strong curmudgeon streak. I suspect he's just having a little fun messing with y'all.

US Offsite member #271, here; checking in. Hi, I'm a douchebag.

Last edited by A-Dub at 9/24/2014 2:33:04 AM

I think that E.B.W has done a great job so far, especially in winning the US's first U21 WC in over a year. btw, EBW does have more than one trophy.

Hopefully, we'll also start to see some senior team wins and right now, they are one win away from that golden basketball. Good luck to them in the finals.