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304811.20 in reply to 304811.19
Date: 6/4/2020 10:53:15 AM
Spartan 300
II.2
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Who cares about TL? How many HOF-s you got from draft with 18y?

We got 2 from 130 teams.

This is where we hold them!
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304811.21 in reply to 304811.20
Date: 6/4/2020 11:10:50 AM
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Ι care. You should too.

Besides that, the numbers of Bosnian(10+) draftees are tragic and compromise the very good job you've been doing with both your NTs.
HoF and ATG draft pool should be the same for every country, as a percentage to the entire draft pool.
Randomness could exist in the (common for all countries)percentage.

Last edited by maddoghellas at 6/4/2020 11:11:31 AM

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304811.22 in reply to 304811.10
Date: 6/4/2020 11:50:33 AM
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I managed the Nippon U21 for a couple terms so lack of available talent is very familiar to me.

I once had a team with 1757 players and was $25,835,360 in debt. This is not that team. Join the Discord group open to anyone, but especially for USA managers to improve your club or get involved with the U21 and NT programs (https://discord.gg/cKpNkt2).
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304811.23 in reply to 304811.16
Date: 6/4/2020 11:55:59 AM
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The BBs missed the boat on giving a more equal playing field to mid, small, and micro nations when Utopia used Utopia players and didn’t draft players in an inverse proportion to the user base by nationality.

I once had a team with 1757 players and was $25,835,360 in debt. This is not that team. Join the Discord group open to anyone, but especially for USA managers to improve your club or get involved with the U21 and NT programs (https://discord.gg/cKpNkt2).
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304811.24 in reply to 304811.22
Date: 6/4/2020 11:59:00 AM
Spartan 300
II.2
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Second Team:
Spartan Kids
I managed the Nippon U21 for a couple terms so lack of available talent is very familiar to me.

Nippon have 1 user, Bosnia 130, you can't compare that.
But as maddoghellas said, there should be a fix percent based on users how many HOF-s you will get at least.

It's sad when you have managers waiting for the draft to train, and you don't get normal players at all.

This is where we hold them!
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304811.25 in reply to 304811.1
Date: 6/4/2020 12:13:44 PM
Manila Bombers
PPL
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It looks like the rate of hall of famer for 18 year old decreased a bit for everyone compared to last season. From 4.2% it became 3.1%. But I think this season is more fair since the standard deviation among countries decreased from 10.9% to 4.2%. It is sad that your country has the worst rate among those with who have 18 year old hof, but is it only this season or do you have a consistently low rate? If it is consistent, maybe you have a valid complaint. I got nonbot player data from BBAPI a few days after both season's draft, so it may be skewed if managers fire low potential player and select high potential players, leaving more low potential players to bots.

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304811.26 in reply to 304811.24
Date: 6/4/2020 12:22:24 PM
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Nippon had about a dozen managers before the merge so the comparison of a lack of talent is valid. Getting MVPs is absolutely normal. This game, like life, doesn’t hand things out based on fair proportions. Luck comes in handy. I drafted two 5/5 guys that both ended up MVP. Our draft had five such players, all MVP. Should I or my league-mates be mad about that too?

I once had a team with 1757 players and was $25,835,360 in debt. This is not that team. Join the Discord group open to anyone, but especially for USA managers to improve your club or get involved with the U21 and NT programs (https://discord.gg/cKpNkt2).
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304811.27 in reply to 304811.25
Date: 6/4/2020 12:25:15 PM
Spartan 300
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Second Team:
Spartan Kids
We got consistently low rate of HOF-s, about ATG I wont even speak
It's a bit problematic for our NT.

This is where we hold them!
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304811.28 in reply to 304811.27
Date: 6/4/2020 12:51:18 PM
Manila Bombers
PPL
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Try asking Marin about it. Maybe he can double check. I agree that distribution of potential should be the same across all countries even if it has high variance.

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304811.29 in reply to 304811.28
Date: 6/4/2020 2:27:28 PM
K.K MILLENIUM
II.1
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Draft S45- we had 2 players
Draft S46- we had 5 players
Draft S47- we had 5 players
Draft S48- we had 4 players and 1 ATG
Draft S49- we had 2 players

These are players with 18 years when got drafted. From this 19 players in 5 season we got 3 players taller than 203 cm. How we can make centers fou our NT, from what?

And this distribution by positions is even more ridiculous than distribution by potential.

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304811.30 in reply to 304811.16
Date: 6/5/2020 3:19:24 AM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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I respect big communities and I do think that bigger communities should get bigger numbers of quality players, but if we can't be equal, it should be done proportionaly !


Have you checked that it isn't proportionally? Do you have evidence or strong beliefs that the average % of talent differs per country consistently? I'm the NT coach of the Netherlands, a little smaller country than yours (100 users), and we also have only 3 18yo HoF talents each draft, a couple of times just 2 like this draft, on occasion we get 5. It seems consistent with your experience, and I would guess it's the same for other countries. I would be stunned if large countries see a bigger % or less variance, do you really think the BB's coded a differerently for specific countries?

I think the question is, how fixed do you want it to be, and how much variance do you accept? Because just having a fixed % of HoF+ players each draft doesn't mean you can work with it ideally. Then you'll get only short players one draft, or just with low TSP. Or maybe bad skill distribution. Do you want or need the draft to be so consistent? Where do you draw the line? Is that even necessary? Or maybe do you just want the overall numbers to be higher for everyone, does that fix your problem? Or is it really that big a deal that one season you get 2 good talents and the other one 5?

Personally, I like being the underdog because I like a challenge. To see what you can make of the things that you have, instead of looking at what others have. It enables you to stand out as a great manager and tactician, to achieve the same with less. Be creative, try something different. There's not 1 path to success. You don't need high number of HoF talents to succeed, we started a Superstar potential player and we got to the European semis.

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