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I use common sense

Yeah you say that. But a argument that someone else makes never makes any sense and what ever you say always does.

I think you do not know what IS common sense.
Common sense means that one uses logic to estimate the situation.
It does not matter whether I think I am right or wrong, and I never used an attack on another user just because the other user opinion had been different than mine.
On a total parallel part - I do not need to agree with ideas that I think are wrong.
On some of the cases, I am (almost) obligated to disagree when the reasoning one gives is for his own sake and not the sake of the game.

I think we need to help him.
Most of us are just shootin the breeze and well if we get on eachothers back, we are pretty good at seeing where we got off track (even if we don't always admit). Anyway I think he doesn't realize what he is doing. Maybe he is just really really young too. Sometimes I forget kids are on here with us.

@Pini
How old are you?

And you keep bringing "relevant" arguments to support your claim or to contradict mine.
Mature indeed...

I am not going to coutner your argument point by point and I do not acknowledge anything you claim as absolute fact. I tried to show you some points where you made sense, and I tried to help you see where you were being obviously unreasonable and aggressive. I'll have to try another approach.

Summary - "I cannot contradict your claims or give claims to support mine". Great...

I think most will agree, conversations with you are rather unpleasant experiences.

It is interesting claim here...
As far as I remember, the first reaction between us on this topic had been your attack. Not on anything I wrote but personally.

I really think you should consider how much you stand out.
Are you not concerned with how different your behavior is with that of the community?

Most who write on this forum, are old users, and probably all are those who are playing at the first division.
Some are consciously speaking for keeping the advantage they have.
Surely there are not many (if any) that are from a lower division.
Last but not least, it is kind of sad that you need the support of the community to feel you worth something.
Well, apparently there is another point - who is "all"? Six users here?

I almost minored in psychology in college and considered studying to the point of making it a profession, alas linguistics was my cup of tea.

You know what is said on those who goes to study Psychology (or "thought to learn" that)...

Although my main reason for suspecting you have a narcissistic disorder is that you have never (that I've seen) expressed the slightest hint of humility. I think this has more to do though with a lack of respect for any counterargument as a result of your obsessiveness, not necessarily a feeling of complete supiority.

This is why I counter other opinion (when I think the opposite) with an argument that contradicts it, whereas you decided to pinpoint my personality w/o any real ability at that either...

An elitist would be less likely to even entertain arguments. Your need to constantly counter every point and demanding everyone to follow each point you make as correct and established fact speaks to a fanatic delusion.

Sorry that I am trying to relate to other comments, and does not choose to attack the personality of the one I debate with.

Amazingly, I read this through, and did not see any argument but a personal attack.
How again did you called one who is aggressive and has no humility?

Last edited by Pini פיני at 3/10/2012 3:32:55 PM

We know now that you are against any change that may help another nation in growing

Once again you are not really listening.
I am FOR:
1) Uniting nations.
2) Putting a cap for making each league, division and conference more competitive, and by that the game will be more welcoming to new users.

Playing against impossible teams right away as it is now is the best way.

Never said that.

1) BB said it will never happened. As well as a lot of people explained to you why it would be really hard to do it.

I did not see the "Never", although I saw that they are against that.
In any case, it does not mean that I can't think the opposite, and although all the known problem they have with that.
In addition, on that it seems that those who wrote here also support this. Not that it has any importance.

2) Several people in a lot of threads explained to you why old teams would still get advantage from that.

Those where the same (very few) uses who are all ("by chance") old users / play at the DIV-1 or DIV-2.
And in any case, I proved that wrong (or on some of the cases a literally lie).

Starting in a lower league would allow teams to discover the game (unknowingly they are playing against bot, because yes, most of them do not know that) and build their team before facing teams of the next level AND following the proposition they will be placed in several league and not just the harsh one.

They will face the same wall and leave.
It is a fact that we don't see any real growth on any nation - users join, play until they are coming to the wall and leave.

This extra season will not change that.
Anyone who will go to the Nippon league can see what rosters (or Arena size) the "wall" (those teams that stand between them and being able to be promoted) have.
A single season will not change the new users when they get to that division - it still will be a wall that they cannot overcome.

Can we agree that you exposed your thoughts and neither you or us will change about that and so that you'll let the other discuss if they want ?

No. I will keep making my voice clear for the sake of the game.

This important line had been lost on one of the messages:

The extra season will not change current situation.
Anyone who will go to the Nippon league can see what rosters (or Arena size) the "wall" (AKA, those teams that stand between them and being able to be promoted) have.
A single season on BOT-all division will not change that for the new users, when they'll get to that division - it still will be a wall that they cannot overcome, and they will lose interest in the game (as they already are) - cannot compete on one division, and don't want to continue competing against those BOT teams.

Can we agree that you exposed your thoughts and neither you or us will change about that and so that you'll let the other discuss if they want ?

No. I will keep making my voice clear for the sake of the game.

For the sake of the game? Really?