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by memory dont really have good records but i think around then leage average was 60k & i remember being double the average

Well our current Div 2 league average is 67k, and tanking is at an all time high. The profit is really irrelevant anyway. The income is how you judge the strength of the economy. I could run at a loss this season in Div 2 and relegate, tank next season in Div 3 and make over 100k pw.

When I promoted, my salaries were just over 200k and I was making no profit. As soon as I was on Div 2 income I consistently made over 100k pw (i didnt purchase any players until I needed them to avoid relegation). The only way you could make that amount of profit in Div 3 would be to heavily tank. Probably not in the current economy, but definitely 7 seasons ago.

i think my team was unusual cause i had strong guards for the time but weak big men

i have nfi about my income but i know my costs found an old printout of my team

season 12 i had a 19-3 record made the finals so not a bad season

pg rad 9k
sg xie 15k
sf pawel 8k
pf gomen 11k
c giovinco 12k

bench was random scrubs none more than 8k

so i was paying less that 100k on salaries & dont know how big my arena was but i got more than 9k turning up to games so ... awesome found it

an old economic record 7 6 2010 week 11 season 12 (the best profit)

Player Salaries: $ 97 000
Staff Salaries: $ 39 000
Scouting: $ 10 000 (i have always sworn that i have always spent 20k wrong)

Attendance: $ 176 000
Merchandise: $ 40 000
TV Contract: $ 72 000

Typical Weekly Net Income:$ 126 000

how is that?

on a different topic

tanking is at an all time high

can u blame anyone

i feel like a total sucker having so much $ invested in players as their value halves each season

i was just scouting WAB 4 our match & going through their transfer history

wow they really got burnt by the market crash

Juraj Hoferica Bought INTERIER KRSKO 7/24/2011 $ 2 200 000
Juraj Hoferica Sold johny i tak przegracie 2/20/2012 $ 205 100

Abel Jiménez Bought Leça-mar Warriors 1/25/2011 $ 1 768 700
Abel Jiménez Sold New coming Champs 2/17/2012 $ 450 000

Aristomenis Moraitis Bought K.B.Trepça 12/1/2010 $ 1 150 000
Aristomenis Moraitis Sold Boney M B.C. 2/14/2012 $ 742 900

Dom Redd Bought Free Agent 3/8/2011 $ 1 900 000
Dom Redd Sold 科科園區2/14/2012 $ 583 800

those r the biggest 4 this year but there are lots more small ones

just those 4 deals total 2 about 5 million $$$ in losses

sorry surgeon if this seems like im picking on u im not

what im saying is that with players values going down so fast right now what is better to hold onto players or cash?

you, me, kynlala, adam, jw, players & WCS all have big rosters with heavy salary bills

at the end of the season 1 team (probably kynlala but im sure some of us will give them our best shot) will promote & the rest of us will just have happy memories

im not telling any1 to tank, i cant do it i get 2 annoyed if i lose, but i can sure see why some are

teams like marmots, celtics, WAB & ur buddy YPB r making a fortune

but so must be teams like cccpba & goaussie who have great records with cheap rosters

I think the constant devaluation of players is one of the only ways for newer teams to be competitive. The one time bonuses at the start of the seasons aren't enough.

In order to keep people registering, playing and signing up for supporter, they have to find ways to level things out I guess.

Perhaps I'm wrong.

The market's not totally dead. There's still definitely money to be made if you do it right - i.e. my most recent purchase/sales - 1 I did wrong (Maniezzo), 2 I did right:

Silvano Maniezzo Bought Yes we did! 2/19/2012 $ 677 500
Silvano Maniezzo Sold ProhopU 3/5/2012 $ 612 000
-$63,500


Joaquim Vilela Bought Pigeon Boys 2/11/2012 $ 258 000
Joaquim Vilela Sold larrys cable guys 3/2/2012 $ 400 000
+$142,000

Spomenko Miličković Bought Dragstor 2/12/2012 $ 510 000
Spomenko Miličković Sold Dühöngő Csiga 3/2/2012 $ 714 000
+$214,000

I'm not saying it's dead, just that players are getting cheaper and cheaper.

It doesn't make sense that my local club team could buy an NBA player (even if it's for a short time) because the NBA teams won't sign him due to his salary being too much.

Oh, I agree, it's completely artificial. But then again, so are a lot of sporting regimes, i.e. the EPL - the top few clubs are completely propped up by their owners, who chuck in bucketloads of money every season. It's hard to replicate that fairly on here :/

Player Salaries: $ 97 000
Staff Salaries: $ 39 000
Scouting: $ 10 000 (i have always sworn that i have always spent 20k wrong)

Attendance: $ 176 000
Merchandise: $ 40 000
TV Contract: $ 72 000

Typical Weekly Net Income:$ 126 000

how is that?

Well done on promoting so efficiently. However, that is still a large degree of tanking...
Ask the others from 3/10. You needed to be at the absolute maximum capacity of your revenue to promote back then (like you do in any active league). The team I had to beat was similar to yours, except he had 250k worth of starting guards. It was even harder the season before when my opponent had an almost identical balanced line up.

"tanking is at an all time high"


can u blame anyone...

Not anyone in particular...
I think tanking is a detriment to the game. However, there is no way to stop it, and if you're not a part of the revolution, you have no chance in competing.
The issue with it is last I heard iwen had 15 million banked from last season. No doubt of his ability as a manager, but anyone who has a basic understanding of the game can dominate anyone with that. Yes, saving money is a legitimate strategy, but it kills the ability to genuinely out think an opponent, therefore killing the competition (the whole purpose of competing).
So while the few of us that planned to make our run this season, we are praying for several miracles to have any chance. Then when we waste resources to compete for second, managers like camel tank toward a figure that will make him unstoppable. This season it 15 million, next its 17, then 20 and so on...
Same as training. Why spend seasons training a players who is well behind for the first few seasons when you can cut back on staff and tank a few seasons and buy ready made players?
It's no longer what you know. It's how patient you can be...

It doesn't make sense that my local club team could buy an NBA player (even if it's for a short time) because the NBA teams won't sign him due to his salary being too much.

Youre local club could buy any uncontracted nba player if they want to go broke. And the nba are currently going through a shortened season due to players striking because their contracts are higher than the franchises can maintain...

Still, this does point out the same issue in this game. Maybe a hard salary cap would help regulate excessive salaries and balance out the difference between the top teams.

As you seem to have stated above, it should be more about tactics.

If they want people to spend loads of time on here, they should go deeper into the tactics.

Tanking and saving money for seasons and seasons, while legitimate is boring. But then it's probably the best way to win if you didn't start 15 seasons ago.

Oh, I agree, it's completely artificial. But then again, so are a lot of sporting regimes, i.e. the EPL - the top few clubs are completely propped up by their owners, who chuck in bucketloads of money every season. It's hard to replicate that fairly on here

Very true.