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From: AZ
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Date: 10/10/2012 1:16:44 PM
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Round 1 - Visionaries
Round 2 - King Drive Ballers
Round 3 - N/A
Round 4 - Burlington Mountain Goats (However GM-Jason hotly contests his teams status as being worthy of "tough cup draw")
Round 5 - Bullish Mentality
Round 6 - Tie? Quakers/Bullish*
Round 7 - Visionaries
Round 8 - Quakers (Because he's Away, he's @ Bruins)

*Should we count what actually happened in the game or not? Bruins, Quakers, and myself all had D2 opponents. Quakers got norm'd, I got CT'd, and Bruins opponent just tanked it. But when planning out the week, you don't know if they're gonna try or not, so you can still make the case for Bruins.

19 D2 teams remain. Potentially 17 of them will return for the next round. Add in the 10 NBBA teams that can return (either Quakers or Bruins gets KO'd). So that leaves only 5 good draws left in the Cup.

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To: AZ
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Date: 10/10/2012 3:36:38 PM
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I don't think you should count what happens in the game itself. For me, good or bad cup draw is all about lineup planning for the week. It doesn't matter if you get CT'd if you win. I guess maybe there could be some retroactive stuff. If Technical Fouls CTs me and knocks me out, does that make him a worse draw than Quakers drawing Bruins? I don't think so, since one of them loses too. But it could work as a tiebreaker?

From: AZ

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Date: 10/10/2012 5:30:25 PM
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I don't think you should count what happens in the game itself. For me, good or bad cup draw is all about lineup planning for the week. It doesn't matter if you get CT'd if you win.


I suppose the issue between getting out-efforted is if they have a track record of doing it in the past. If yes, then that factors into lineup planning for the week, since you need to be wary of such a threat.

I guess maybe there could be some retroactive stuff. If Technical Fouls CTs me and knocks me out, does that make him a worse draw than Quakers drawing Bruins? I don't think so, since one of them loses too.


I'm leaning towards it only affecting lineup planning, so not retroactive. The team Bruins played did not have much of a Cup History at all, and anytime he went to the round of 128 or even 256 was when he had very favorable draws.

I think the only way a retroactive (worst cup draw) adjustment would be made is if the opponents are from the same division.

I'm fine with Quakers and myself getting a tie for that round, since after the Saturday game, it looked like both of our opponents were aiming to steal the Cup game. So that can still change your lineup plans for the Tuesday game.

But it could work as a tiebreaker?


I think the best tiebreaker would be just counting up D2 opponents for weeks you didn't have the worst Cup draw. KDB probably has the edge in that area.

From: AZ

To: Coco
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Date: 10/10/2012 11:45:20 PM
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Fair enough. However, there is another way to look at besides sympathy. Sometimes I just get fucking bored at work.

From: AZ
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Date: 10/11/2012 12:44:13 PM
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This doesn't really matter, but what goes into the Coaching Rating for the All Star Game? Prolific (Med) for one conference yet Respectable (Low) for the other? That's an obscene difference.

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Date: 10/11/2012 1:46:28 PM
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I told czobo not to coach the Big 8 in the all star game, but he insisted. Also cmon AJ needs to play more than 17 minutes.

While difficulty of cup opponent matters some, its also about your position in league and what you are willing to sacrifice. For some of us B8 teams we now have 2 tankers, so we know we can throw a league game if needed if we draw a good D2 team for example. The season I made the cup final (17) SM was so far away in 1st place that I could tank whatever league game I wanted to save starters for the cup, I wound up with an amusingly large negative PD for 2nd place. Unfortunately Coco's team was absolutely loaded on PEDs that season and he cheated his way to a double gold, but thats another story.

AZ in a different position because you have HCA in a potential finals to worry about. G8 teams have to worry about positioning a little more at the moment though that might change if some decide to prioritize cup over fighting calum for 1st.

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Date: 10/11/2012 2:54:12 PM
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AZ in a different position because you have HCA in a potential finals to worry about.


Which is something I wasn't expecting when I resumed normal training this season. Especially with Brian's old National Team roster, Silverbacks improved team, and no longer having the Bot formerly known as Boomshakalakas to beat up on. I figured that I'd be towards the middle of the conference and more teams would have a vested interest in the playoffs.

I wasn't considering a possible Finals bid with a shot at overall HCA, since this season just like the last one, my PD is pretty bad for my record. But it feels like I'd be squandering an opportunity if I don't factor a playoff run in.

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Date: 10/11/2012 6:07:06 PM
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i think the asg still uses the season 2-era GE, which contained the wonderfully mysterious "coach rating". i'm pretty sure it was a reflection of how many angels could dance on the top of the coach's head.

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Date: 10/11/2012 8:04:57 PM
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Tanner and Nemesio facing off tonight, should be a good matchup

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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