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From: shikago

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251906.208 in reply to 251906.206
Date: 2/12/2014 12:23:20 AM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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Thanks for the reply. Interesting thought.
Ok, I glanced at 3 random games with M2M just now. Had the reb edge in each of them (1 to 2 levels) yet still got out-rebounded in all 3 of them! Just in general, to me... in the past it seemed like whoever had a decided rebounding edge could count on not getting out-rebounded at the very least. And more often than not, dominate the glass.

Believe it or not, I went from 2011 to spring/summer of 2013 without making moves... & still have most of my old core. So it's not like the makeup of my team changed radically. (It's still Maybelline.)

Here's something minor, but weird too. My backup C had back to back games of only 1 rebound in 19+ minutes. That's worse than I'd expect a fan to do, no exaggeration! He's not a scrub either... put up a 17.5 rating this season. Something's just off...

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251906.209 in reply to 251906.207
Date: 2/12/2014 12:47:54 AM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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You can comment on my reply to smallfries too if you like.
I remember you didn't think very highly of Diorites reb ability IIRC. Anyway, never considered the GDP til you brought it up. Of the 3 random M2M games I mentioned... one I double guessed right, & one my opponent guessed right. So based on that huge sample size: I'm declaring no on GDP! Besides, it would already be reflected in the rankings? Thought that's partly why you put up a huge defensive rating with your 1-3-1.

I'd counter your 3-2 zone advantageous rumor with the game manual. Which heavily implies that it shouldn't have much of an impact. (actually, it implies zero impact).


maybe it's time to stop carrying so few players and open the checkbook.

I got confused with baseball & thought I had to get down to a 40 man roster.

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251906.210 in reply to 251906.209
Date: 2/12/2014 10:35:29 AM
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You can comment on my reply to smallfries too if you like.
I remember you didn't think very highly of Diorites reb ability IIRC. Anyway, never considered the GDP til you brought it up. Of the 3 random M2M games I mentioned... one I double guessed right, & one my opponent guessed right. So based on that huge sample size: I'm declaring no on GDP! Besides, it would already be reflected in the rankings? Thought that's partly why you put up a huge defensive rating with your 1-3-1.

I'd counter your 3-2 zone advantageous rumor with the game manual. Which heavily implies that it shouldn't have much of an impact. (actually, it implies zero impact).


maybe it's time to stop carrying so few players and open the checkbook.

I got confused with baseball & thought I had to get down to a 40 man roster.


I don't remember being unimpressed with Diorite's rebounding ability. I do remember I think last season that at one point their roster was lacking inside quality to the point where even before the GDP came into play I went with an LI against them because it just seemed almost mandatory. Then he picked up Mobile and Kostas and has beaten my ass twice in a row, so, yeah. ;)

While the results of GDP are definitely reflected in the ratings, what we don't know is whether it also has an effect on "hidden" ratings - things that don't normally show up like flow skills on big (though that's not of course relevant to GDP), ID on guards and OD on bigs, and rebounding on the guards. But rebounding's screwy anyhow - if the rebounding skills are even remotely similar, I'd imagine on average that the team with more rebounds is more likely to be correlated to the shooting percentage than the rebounding skill.

From: calfson

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251906.211 in reply to 251906.203
Date: 2/14/2014 8:14:45 AM
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I did state later in the season that with inter league play starting, I was going to attempt to win some conference games.

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251906.212 in reply to 251906.211
Date: 2/14/2014 10:54:52 AM
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You know you're living life in BB right when you list a player at the mid to upper end of his TC range, get a bid on Thursday night on him, and then Friday's training causes a skill drop that switches his position and causes his TC range to drop by half. So for full disclosure, folks, the player that I'm selling for $275k that *now* has a TC of 100-170k is not me trying to fleece somebody, and in fact I suppose I should have listed him at 800k for a few months until someone bought him.

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251906.213 in reply to 251906.212
Date: 2/14/2014 11:47:08 AM
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Yes, I've seen these TPEs drop dramatically even without a skill drop. It makes you wonder why this happens, especially if there were at least a dozen players who had been sold at said TPE. So what in hell happens? Besides, hrudey, we all know that you simply knew that guy was going to drop a skill:-)

Pappy
From: Jason

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251906.214 in reply to 251906.212
Date: 2/14/2014 1:48:19 PM
Arizona Desert Storm
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You know you're living life in BB right when you list a player at the mid to upper end of his TC range, get a bid on Thursday night on him, and then Friday's training causes a skill drop that switches his position and causes his TC range to drop by half. So for full disclosure, folks, the player that I'm selling for $275k that *now* has a TC of 100-170k is not me trying to fleece somebody, and in fact I suppose I should have listed him at 800k for a few months until someone bought him.


TPE's are not usually the best measuring stick of value anyway. The GM's factor in much more than that when looking at Transfer questions. Things were called pretty tight there for a while, it seemed like if a guy got $50K more that what most would consider normal, people kind of freaked out. That was never the spirit of the TPE, or the rule governing transfers.

The whole point is to dissuade "account transfers" and cheating in general, or the occasional time when a guy blatantly profits from a really stupid bid on one on his players :-) I think you are more than safe in this instance ;)

From: shikago

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251906.215 in reply to 251906.211
Date: 2/14/2014 2:01:28 PM
Milwaukee Lethargy
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Sigh. If you're going to make some grand pronouncement at the start of the season about how fair & magnanimous you are, stick to it? Furthermore you stated:
As home court advantage has shown to be so critical for promoting and everyone in the Big 8 fielded such competitive teams against Delta 9 last season, I will attempt to play competitive games against Big 8 leaders
Yeah, let's see how that played out... oh wait, it didn't. In fact you went out of your way to do the opposite!

But regardless, your whole revised premise is even more disingenuous. The only way you'd win a game was literally by ambush, & you knew it. No other way. Hell, the bunch of scrubs I put out with FCP & double wrong GDP still made a game of it.

Otherwise, what's the point in suddenly playing your best guys? Did you suddenly have a burning desire mid-season to give most teams a huge PD bonus, but others a somewhat smaller PD? (Because, fairness!) Yeah, that's plausible... (eye-roll). Especially seeing how BB treats all blowout losses the same. TBH, that would be even *more* of a jag move. Since it would only hurt certain teams while not even benefiting you one bit. To reiterate, no non-tanking team would even come close to losing to you & we both know it.

So, in summary, your whole "fair play" act just got KO'd:



Now please stop being deceitful / pretending to have the moral high ground. TIA

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251906.216 in reply to 251906.214
Date: 2/14/2014 2:01:31 PM
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You know you're living life in BB right when you list a player at the mid to upper end of his TC range, get a bid on Thursday night on him, and then Friday's training causes a skill drop that switches his position and causes his TC range to drop by half. So for full disclosure, folks, the player that I'm selling for $275k that *now* has a TC of 100-170k is not me trying to fleece somebody, and in fact I suppose I should have listed him at 800k for a few months until someone bought him.


TPE's are not usually the best measuring stick of value anyway. The GM's factor in much more than that when looking at Transfer questions. Things were called pretty tight there for a while, it seemed like if a guy got $50K more that what most would consider normal, people kind of freaked out. That was never the spirit of the TPE, or the rule governing transfers.

The whole point is to dissuade "account transfers" and cheating in general, or the occasional time when a guy blatantly profits from a really stupid bid on one on his players :-) I think you are more than safe in this instance ;)


You hear that, guys? I'm not going to be punished. If you want to see the man take me down, you'll have to go bid up Poirier by several hundred thousand more, at minimum. I don't think the lot of you have the guts to do it.

From: Yuck

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251906.217 in reply to 251906.216
Date: 2/14/2014 2:50:57 PM
Cassville Yuck
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Second Team:
Yuckville Cass
Poirer is worth what ever you get. At least he isnt a Perr All Star potential 18 yo that you listed for 600K since the beginning of the season and finally duped a new team into purchasing him. At Perr All Star, its going to take some good training to make him worth more than initial purchase price, plus the two years or real time training.

From: Eagle

To: Yuck
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251906.218 in reply to 251906.217
Date: 2/14/2014 3:00:44 PM
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Yeah, that "new" team has been around since S15.

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