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How many top teams are there making big sale? What's the % of them from 50000 users? The sale via federation is an exception. Used very seldomly.
Let me try to explain it to you again. The point of this addition is to protect newer users and to lessen GM work. Thus making the game more fair. If a manager keeps listing his player (let say worth approximately 500k) constantly at 1,5mil. Perhaps in 3 weeks of listing he will get an accidental or unthoughtful bid on his player and it get's sold at start value of 1,5mil. Is it a fair price? Some people might think it's not. So reported -> fined? Wouldn't it be easier just to tax those risktakers (or bid fishers) instead of reporting and fineing them? I'm not actually sure any fireworks go off for GM-s either. So with no report those overpriceing managers will gain an unfair advantage.
Now before you come with an argument of one sale gives no advantage. True. But I monitor a number of these kind of teams that have 3-5 of those type of players on sale constantly. They sell one get a new player and lists another player above his worth.
With this tax: if he truly wants to sell those players, he will list them near their value. Perhaps even would not list some of them at all.

I was also thinking about this and it doesnt seem right to me make up there aditional charges for not-sold players. Messed Fan Survey is far enough, because to set there the right price - means that you have to know something about TL prices and this kind of knowledge is hard to get, while you dont watch TL frequently.

It means that what you propose, would force managers to have any knowledge, instead of just free trying. Prices are very subjective as well as real skill-value of some players. What most of them would not consider as a so good thing (high DV on his center or ID on PG), would any other time any other manager consider as a fair value... and sometimes it takes a time.

What I would propose would be the thing that you can list a player for more days than 3 if you choose to do so. Like 3-7 days.

Last edited by aigidios at 4/15/2010 10:29:43 AM

I am a supporter of fair play. You are deliberately trying to cheat more money for less value and while doing it you gain an unfair advantage. Taxing will make you second guess about listing players above their value. True or false?

Once, there was this guy who went to the doctor and said "Doc, my knee hurts every time I hit it like this." The doctor said "So don't hit your knee like that."

This remark is irrelevant. You would be surprised how many dumb people go see the doctor for the dumbest reasons you can ever imagine. But that is also beside the point.
So basically what you are saying: if you see someone stealing in the supermarket (or anywhere for that matter), you turn away? I for one would make sure the authoritys get alerted.

If you are unsure about the price, use transfer estimate. The survey has a low effect on your income, just like paying the players salary for the time he is not sold (as you can play him).

Very bad idea.
If i put a player with a crazy price on the market,my objective could be not to sell him immediately at that price,but to show him to some potential buyer,to find a compromise with him for the future price of the player(that i will put again on the market,at the right price this time).Why I should be punished to pursue this perfectly legal practice?

There's yet the TPA system,which isn't perfect,but surely works,to protect the users from who try to make some dirty job(but in TPA system there should be also more control on some decisions made by some less experienced GM,sometimes really questionable)

And this

The point of this addition is... to lessen GM work.

is not a good argument for this idea,because we cannot introduce worst thing in the game because Gms have "too work".It would be better to create more Gms to eliminate the ovverruns works,than improve the game in a worse way,as happened for the transfer threads previously

And this

The point of this addition is... to lessen GM work.

is not a good argument for this idea,because we cannot introduce worst thing in the game because Gms have "too work".It would be better to create more Gms to eliminate the ovverruns works,than improve the game in a worse way

I don't want to derail this discussion, but in the real world, GM capacity does matter. You can't just throw more GMs at problems... from my past experience, it's already hard enough to find sufficent numbers of GMs with the willingness, ability, and trustworthiness to do an effective job.

Last edited by Mod-oeuftete at 4/15/2010 2:05:51 PM

Remember those "+" at team transfers? They were removed because GM-s could not manage the reports (nomatter if there were a lot of fake reports). So if GM-s work with only transfer reports they have less time to adress other issues.
Why do you have to list your player to show theyr skills? Send a BB-mail or post in the forums. If you agree on a price then list him, if you have given the wrong skills the player will not be bought. Simple.

Last edited by Kukoc at 4/15/2010 2:13:16 PM

If you are unsure about the price, use transfer estimate. The survey has a low effect on your income, just like paying the players salary for the time he is not sold (as you can play him).

I dont think that is good point to force managers to use forums. If game works with its own mechanisms, it is the best way.

i still think that, you should consider that asking a fair but not to low price is important especially for guys who only could sell their players in the night but also as protection against instable servers who appears from time to time. And a percentual fee will give their a big imbalanced and dissappointed players(because they maybe had to list a player more times, or sell them way to low because they are few interest online/or even worse the tl was down which avoid bidding wars who usually appears 5 minutes before the end).

If you punish selling high prices player like that, this could be pretty unfair, and would lead to lot afdvantes through friendly or planned transfers.

Remember those "+" at team transfers? They were removed because GM-s could not manage the reports (nomatter if there were a lot of fake reports). So if GM-s work with only transfer reports they have less time to adress other issues.
Why do you have to list your player to show theyr skills? Send a BB-mail or post in the forums. If you agree on a price then list him, if you have given the wrong skills the player will not be bought. Simple.

Sending a BB-Mail to managers that don't ask you about that player is clearly signed in rules as spamming and punishable of sanctions.And if the other managers doesn't know the skill of my players,I'll never find a agrrement with them
The transfer threads was closed all over the world because of the Gm overrun problems,so also to post players in the forum can be punishable,and however the post will be deleted
You can wrote in private federations if you are a supporter,as happened nowadays(and this give a great advantage in-game to who is supporter nowadays,ndr),or maybe if someone organize it,in some kind of external forum

So,you cannot seriouslt think to introduce tax on players not sold on the market...