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175459.21 in reply to 175459.20
Date: 2/23/2011 3:03:42 PM
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To sum up, the Knicks are giving up young guys with potential for past their prime stars. That always works out well...

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Date: 2/23/2011 3:42:47 PM
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I agree. Not to mention they could have positioned themselves for Chris Paul/Deron Williams types in later seasons, which they needed more of. It's like an odd type of lack of patience, they haven't grown into a contender this year, and even in the future Stoudemire/Anthony just isn't as good a collection of "stars" as Wade/Lebron/Bosh.


Pundits seemed to be saying that the Knicks would still have a shot at Paul or Williams...maybe even a better shot now.





Well, looks like Williams is off the table now. The Nets just made their own big trade, sending Favors, Harris, some draft picks, and some cash to Utah to get Williams.

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Date: 2/23/2011 8:46:29 PM
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As discussed before, the Knicks never really have/had a shot at Williams/Paul anyway.

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Date: 2/23/2011 10:32:16 PM
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We will see...honestly, I don't know what the financial structure that the Knicks have or what the collective bargaining agreement will be. However, if Miami can have Lebron, Bosh and Wade, its not totally out of the question that the Knicks could have three all-star caliber players.

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175459.25 in reply to 175459.24
Date: 2/23/2011 10:48:43 PM
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Knicks win! Knicks win!

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Date: 2/23/2011 11:40:59 PM
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However, if Miami can have Lebron, Bosh and Wade, its not totally out of the question that the Knicks could have three all-star caliber players.


The big different is that the Heat guys all took slight paycuts whereas Amare and Carmelo pretty much went for as much money as they could which basically kills the Knicks chances of getting that 3rd big star and still having money for anything but D-leaguers.

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Date: 2/24/2011 12:56:32 AM
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However, if Miami can have Lebron, Bosh and Wade, its not totally out of the question that the Knicks could have three all-star caliber players.


The big different is that the Heat guys all took slight paycuts whereas Amare and Carmelo pretty much went for as much money as they could which basically kills the Knicks chances of getting that 3rd big star and still having money for anything but D-leaguers.


What...that can't happen if they have a shot at Chris Paul? Plus, the Knicks could also go over the cap and pay the tax...

I don't know...we'll have to see.

Still, I don't think the Knicks are contenders...Amare and Melo are go players...but I'm not sure have two scoring forwards that aren't stellar defensively is the best framework to build a championship winner upon.

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Date: 2/24/2011 3:50:30 AM
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However, if Miami can have Lebron, Bosh and Wade, its not totally out of the question that the Knicks could have three all-star caliber players.


The big different is that the Heat guys all took slight paycuts whereas Amare and Carmelo pretty much went for as much money as they could which basically kills the Knicks chances of getting that 3rd big star and still having money for anything but D-leaguers.


What...that can't happen if they have a shot at Chris Paul? Plus, the Knicks could also go over the cap and pay the tax...

I don't know...we'll have to see.

Still, I don't think the Knicks are contenders...Amare and Melo are go players...but I'm not sure have two scoring forwards that aren't stellar defensively is the best framework to build a championship winner upon.

No, it can't happen. Not unless Chris Paul agrees to take WAY LESS (like... 10 million per or so). You can't go over the cap to sign a free agent.

The CBA looks like being quite draconian and definitely will swing the pendulum back in favor of the owners. I wouldn't be surprised to see a hard cap with no exceptions, or a soft cap with very, very few exceptions... but if they get the soft cap, expect massive salary reconstructions, perhaps even rollbacks.

Basically... very unlikely that NYK can fit another star on that roster.

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175459.30 in reply to 175459.29
Date: 2/24/2011 11:00:44 AM
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You dont need 3 stars, you need 12 team members. Ever since the big Boston thing where they signed Allen and Garnett, this 'powerhouse of superstars' seems to be the only way people can believe in a winner. Having the biggest names you can afford isnt a sure recipe for a championship, as we will see in this year's playoffs. People seem to be jonesing for the 'big move' like the Celts and Heat have done recently. It's amazing that anyone in the past ever won a championship at all without triplets

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175459.31 in reply to 175459.29
Date: 2/24/2011 4:56:02 PM
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Not sure why you think there will even BE any exceptions, much less MLEs available. The entire point of the CBA negotiations from the ownership side of things has been to institute a hard cap, or at the very least eliminate most of the exceptions.
No-one expects NY to contend? Except for the NY media and fans...

And no: the Knicks aren't a contender. I very much doubt they'll finish top 4, and are staring at a second round exit.

(tho' with the Celtics trades... who knows on them!)

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