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190315.22 in reply to 190315.21
Date: 7/24/2011 7:41:55 AM
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would you agree if i say that the hardest earned B3 ticket is winning the national cup (or the division.1 championship) of the country with the biggest user base (Italy or Spain)..?

Yes, I agree, but I'm not sure how many times in this countries have won the cup team which is not Div I, because I think the gap in economic conditions between Div I and Div II teams is bigger than between VS and rest of the world.

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190315.23 in reply to 190315.21
Date: 7/24/2011 9:18:21 AM
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Can you find weakest participant of last B3 (excluding teams in time of tanking like TUKUMS)? I'm not sure how many Div II and lower cup winners were involved.
(181976.218) Here you can see wage bills of this last B3 playoff. Just one team below 700k.
I still think it should be general rule, because also in league or cup you can face tanking teams.

ok, here's another suggestion..

would you agree if i say that the hardest earned B3 ticket is winning the national cup (or the division.1 championship) of the country with the biggest user base (Italy or Spain)..?
we can take this team's economy as the base and set the cap according to his/her roster salary average in the whole season..

i really don't think a cap is needed for domestic tournaments..


I would argue no:

In smaller nations the structure lends itself so that you could see more teams with wages that deviate further away from the average.

Nothing stopping teams yo-yoing between Div 1 & 2 and then going for a top division title and then all hell can break loose going for BB3 ticket.

Then you have the old TIE pacts and between just 3 or 4 managers you can manipulate the outcome of the league or cup (if they are clever/strong enough)...

This season, I didn't have a single home cup game.. I drew Ball Bouncers in the BB3 (and just laid down) and I've just seen I've CT'ed my way to the double after some fun and games between managers trying to take me down....

I think that in Spain/Italy and similar nations you have more balanced games on average but that doesn't make the route to the top any easier than in competitive small countries.

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190315.24 in reply to 190315.18
Date: 7/24/2011 12:35:13 PM
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its not about number of online users (even if it matters) it is about having a competitive roster or demoting.
if you are able to hang in 5º-6º place and earn big money.

Asking where to put the line is just demagogy. That problem arises everytime you have to put a line. Be it the hard cap (where is high or low enough) or be it when a man is tall.

Still think the problem is not about the maximum roster, but about less competitive leagues being able to win or finishing near the top with low weekly spending (relative term) that leads, in my opinion, to an unbalanced economy, biased towards smaller countries.


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190315.25 in reply to 190315.14
Date: 7/24/2011 4:51:39 PM
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The average Salary of last seasons B3 teams that made it through the Table stage was in the $800 k bracket, this is not including VS or Ball Bouncers. So a $850k cap sound about right to me, thats a Roster Cap just to be clear.

Right is not a popularity contest!
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190315.26 in reply to 190315.25
Date: 7/25/2011 2:39:29 AM
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It look like wild card would be given to polish WKS Lakers if there is odd number of participants.

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190315.27 in reply to 190315.11
Date: 7/25/2011 4:46:17 AM
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Iran now have as many BB3 titles as tiny Japan!!
Who will get their second title first??!!

Iran ;)

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190315.28 in reply to 190315.11
Date: 7/25/2011 7:08:31 AM
Matrix Mighty Dunkers
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not by anyone but by winner off country championship or cup

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190315.29 in reply to 190315.1
Date: 7/25/2011 10:26:25 AM
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I have counted. There are 162 different first league and cup winners in all BB world. How many wild cards would be given? You have to add to that number previous winners of BBB.

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190315.30 in reply to 190315.29
Date: 7/25/2011 10:37:19 AM
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Have you counted Ghana winner as one or two? Because cup won youngstars, than boted and new users for the team with the same ID won the league, so it looks like 2 winners, but just 1 team in B3.
3 teams are involved as B3 winners without win in cup or league last season.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 7/25/2011 10:37:47 AM

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190315.31 in reply to 190315.30
Date: 7/25/2011 11:16:34 AM
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Have you counted Ghana winner as one or two? Because cup won youngstars, than boted and new users for the team with the same ID won the league, so it looks like 2 winners, but just 1 team in B3.
3 teams are involved as B3 winners without win in cup or league last season.


that makes it 162-1+3=164 because I counted Ghana as 2.

how many wildcards do you think it will be? I hope for 20 at least)))))

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