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From: WFUnDina

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195774.22 in reply to 195774.21
Date: 9/20/2011 12:18:29 AM
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"LOL" how many intelligent people use that?

I have a plan, I'm working on my plan. I didn't ask for help, did I?

I play 3 games a week, for 7 guys that will kill gameshape. But you knew that, right?

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195774.23 in reply to 195774.22
Date: 9/20/2011 2:15:28 AM
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perhaps I'll make him into a specialist down the line if I find a better trainee, but I really like unique players, and personally for me I'm not interested in winning or promoting past D.3. I just want to grow and train unique players that can really put a kink in an opponents gameplan. Thats why I'd rather take a player and do something crazy then stick to a easier PF route which no doubt would be smarter and more effecitive, but I can't afford a quality trainee right now so I'm just working to make Mr.Gero into the defensive powerhouse I've always admired. imagine a player with solid OD and ID and SB and can pass the ball around so he isn't a let down on offence. Like a dennis rodman/artest type player with average rebounding skills.

We have a lot of great outside shooters. Unfortunately, we play all our games indoors.
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195774.24 in reply to 195774.23
Date: 9/20/2011 2:24:04 AM
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but especially when you go for training a SF a good basis/trainee is a very important because he needs every skill.

OD + ID is quite very powerful, also on PF but i doubt it that it is valuable to train this player to much into that direction because also here the starting skill is quite low and with the size the training is exhausting.

Overall i don't find the trainee bad for a beginner, but i don't think you should go for anything other then PF/C.

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195774.25 in reply to 195774.17
Date: 9/20/2011 4:41:10 AM
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Please refrain yourself from calling people names.

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195774.27 in reply to 195774.24
Date: 9/20/2011 6:50:05 PM
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I agree and thats a very good point, maybe if i train him alongside someone? he would be a better prospect? Like not my star prospect but another player to get some training?

We have a lot of great outside shooters. Unfortunately, we play all our games indoors.
From: GM-hrudey

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195774.29 in reply to 195774.18
Date: 9/21/2011 11:55:40 AM
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Training is a race. It's paying X value for the trainer and the trainee. Because by the skills they are more expensive for being younger. If they age, with the skills the same spot, they drop in value. You have to race to keep the players value INCREASING at the same rate as what you are paying for a trainer, and what you are paying in losses regular season (because for same moeny you could have had a better player but older, or another player instead of expensive trainer).

In Division V why pay 80 for a trainer when you could have an 80k salary PG or C to dominate with? Seriously.

YOU don't know what it takes to get out of 5 which is why you are stuck there.

I got a buddy in US who signed up 2 seasons ago, promote, promote...no problem. He is smart htough and can take advice.....He buys players for like 1k and sells them for 20k or so. Simple strategy and it works.


Which is why one alternate approach is to go out and find about 5 star potential guards with decent but not ideal starting skills, for under 25k each, and 2 position train them for a few seasons, focusing mostly on defense. Pick up a couple of well-rounded vets, invest in the arena, make sick profits, and move on up like that. There's no need at all to have to daytrade at all, no need to invest in a trainer above level 4, to go out and buy only 5-ball level potential guys, or any of that. Those are all things you *can* do, of course, but not a one of those things is required to promote out of V and get back to me at the end of the season for an update on whether they're necessary to promote out of IV. ;)

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195774.31 in reply to 195774.30
Date: 9/21/2011 8:33:56 PM
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A well-trained PG with star potential would look something like this when his training finished: (I'm sure you'll disagree)

10/8/14/12/12/10 6/6/6/4

While a SG would look something like: (again, I'm sure you'll disagree)

11/9/14/12/12/8 7/7/6/4

This type of player will easily sell on the TL. Not for the millions you seem to be talking about, but he's valuable nonetheless. On top of this, his salary will be manageable in lower divisions and he can play well in most any offense.

On top of this, a team full of veterans is static, while a team being properly trained will vastly improve through the course of a season. The 420k cost is easily covered through increases in attendance and future sale of trained players.

Daytrading is time-intensive and has a diminishing rate of return. The easiest and most effective path to success is to follow hrudey's template.


Last edited by Arthur Monay at 9/21/2011 8:58:14 PM

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