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It is not written in his email and my clear interpretation is that he offers a TIE vs TIE deal. Sure he might even want to deal a TIE vs Normal but no matter what do I think that any kind of effort deal is stinks. I have had that agreement since I started with this game and I won't change my mind. In my opinion it should be a clear violation of the rules to offer deals but I know that admins interpret it differently. It really is a huge loss for the game that it is allowed.

That you come here and attack me is just pathetic. You are so desperate to win so you use any kind of bad sportsmannaship to do so. Of course was it a strategical decision to jump at me ahead of match so that I might feel bad and do as you wish.

Jag är också emot såndana deals, även om dom nu är lagliga.

That you come here and attack me is just pathetic. You are so desperate to win so you use any kind of bad sportsmannaship to do so. Of course was it a strategical decision to jump at me ahead of match so that I might feel bad and do as you wish.

I don't understand you as I did it in time the match was already running so there was no time to change anything in our match. So it could influence neither our nor your effort in the match anyway.
I have no problem if someone refuses any deal. But I have problem if someone interprets things in wrong way.

In my opinion it should be a clear violation of the rules to offer deals but I know that admins interpret it differently. It really is a huge loss for the game that it is allowed.

I can't imagine how it could work. Someone would work as deal police? Which way would they look for evidence? In my eyes only possible solution is change in way that no deal is usefull for anyone. I mean change of enthusiasm and effort system so that system works itself without need of any police or other staff.

If you sent your message in this forum after match was started then obviously it was not your intention to make me change my mind. I apologize for that statement then. Still think that enthusiasm deals is a disgrace to the game.

More importantly, your behaviour in our thread was awful. You were attacking me as being a poor coach and our community for being stupid to re-elect me. Should they rather have elected an user with no election speech that never has written in the forum and that has as best merit a playoff spot in our third division? That was the only other option they could vote for this time. In previous two elections there were only me to vote for and ahead of that a now inactive user. I have won last 4 elections without having a competitor. Still you attack the community for supporting me.

Still waiting for you to explain how I possibly could beat your team with a TIE vs Normal or TIE vs TIE deal. We lost with more than 20 points and would be interesting to hear from a superstar how I beat you with TIE vs Normal. You just dismissed my coaching skills so I know what to learn from the expert.

Please let me know how to do. Or you are afraid of admiting weaknesses in your team? If so, just tell me if you think there are a tactic where we could have made it a close battle with TIE vs Normal. I am pretty sure that you know that my chances to beat you with your current tactic is very small unless we crunch and you play normal.

Med tanke på vilket kasst beteende Tjeckiens nationella coach visar så postade jag ett inlägg på det tjeckiska forumet för att informera dem om detta. Tänker inte argumentera något på det tjeckiska forumet utan gör det rent informellt. Tycker det är tragiskt att någon beter sig på det sätt rwystark gör.

I can't imagine how it could work. Someone would work as deal police? Which way would they look for evidence? In my eyes only possible solution is change in way that no deal is usefull for anyone. I mean change of enthusiasm and effort system so that system works itself without need of any police or other staff.

I have always thought that it is possible for BB to read individual mails posted in BB. If so, it would just be to report anyone who sends a deal where they offer a deal and they could verify it by looking in inbox of user. With such rules would it of course be vaguer and vaguer formulations to start up a discussion about a deal but surely teams would be very careful about it. Of course is there always a risk that discussions are held outside BB but especially for national teams would that not be that easy as it would first require that you know the person before you can get contact information. If someone ahead of matches sends a mail asking for email or so could BB easily ban that person as the intension is very obvious. BB have banned people for suspicions before. They banned several innocent Swedish users some years ago as they were student at same school as some cheaters and used same IPs so they surely can use bannings without full proofs.

So yes, I think that it would be possible to ban users for suggesting enthusiasm deals. I think that it would make sense and improve BB as well. And I have suggested this before in the national team forum but they are not interested in such solution which I think is bad.

Yes, I was wondering why it's going this way in Sweden. But there was sentence But maybe no one else is interested to be U21 manager of Sweden, who knows. at the end of the post.
So it's more about thinking why nobody else is interested. It's pity for community if they have choice just between bad and even worse candidate.
But you are true, my posts were unnecessarily too offensive.

The match ended with 23 points difference. You have already mentioned you could get better result with man to man defence and with your normal vs. our TIE it could be equal match. So I think there is nothing more to explain. If you don't see the difference I can't help you.
And it was first match of the season, in U21 nobody knows exactly the strength of each team unless the first competitive game is played as every country has sometimes stronger and other time weaker year of players. So at start of the season there is chance to risk little bit that the opponent's year is weaker one.

This is not good solution and I can't agree with it, because still there is plenty of room for being lucky as not being caught or unlucky as being caught. And there is 98 NT's and 98 U21's, poor person that would have to check all mails of these 196 managers and as you mentioned there are other ways how to contact opponent manager.
I can imagine for example using just PO normal and PO CT effort as much better solution as there is less space for any agreements (except for downgrading PO CT vs. PO CT to PO normal vs. PO normal).
But probably BB-staff is on the side of users that considers deals as tactical part of the game.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 11/15/2011 5:48:31 AM