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234269.21 in reply to 234269.18
Date: 1/16/2013 4:14:51 PM
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The leafs have no need for Luongo

True, with the caveat that no one needs Luongo.

Reimer is fine for them.

No.

Burke is a great GM, he's just been the victim of circumstance too many times.

No.

Toronto is too demanding of a market.

The Leafs haven't made the playoffs since 03-04 and Burke emphatically guaranteed playoff hockey every single season (not that I bought it personally). He also left with a horrendous roster and no future in place. Maybe we're not demanding enough.

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Date: 1/16/2013 4:30:00 PM
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Date: 1/16/2013 5:39:04 PM
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Burke has been a solid NHL GM in the past but his firing in Toronto has nothing to do with the media, the market or being a victim of circumstance, he simply did a poor job.

And while trading for Luongo's contract might be something to avoid, calling Reimer the answer is the same longshot it's always been. It's something Burke stated only because there were no better solutions available.

Good call on the commissioner part although I think the owners would prefer keeping a puppet like Bettman in charge rather than having a knowledgeable hockey man that speaks his own mind. That's the problem with pro sports, the commisioner is hired by the owners to act in their best interests. That's why Bettman isn't going anywhere, he takes direction well.



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234269.24 in reply to 234269.18
Date: 1/16/2013 9:15:27 PM
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What do you guys think about Seth Jones being named the top draft-eligible skater from North America atop Nathan MacKinnon and Jonathan Drouin. I honestly could see any of these 3 going 1st overall and who has the 3rd pick in the draft has the easiest choice in my opinion but Jones deserves it following his play at the WJHC and MacKinnon, well he can thank Steve Spott for his slide.

BREAKING: JACK NONIS MADE HIS FIRST MOVE AS TORONTO'S GM TRADING MATTHEW LOMBARDI TO THE COYOTES FOR CONDITIONAL DRAFT PICK(A 4TH ROUND PICK THAT WILL TURN INTO A 3RD ROUND PICK IF LOMBARDI RESIGNS WITH THE COYOTES NEXT SEASON.)

what i think about this trade: Matthew Lombardi will start producing for the Coyotes. Typical Leafs Luck.

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Date: 1/16/2013 10:28:42 PM
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4th round pick, not 4th overall.

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234269.26 in reply to 234269.23
Date: 1/17/2013 1:28:15 AM
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Burke did what he thought was best for the team. He go fired because the new management didn't like his approach. He has left a pretty bad team with little numbers of good prospects. Its not all on him though.

They've had lots of underachieving players, bad drafting partly because of poor scouting, and Toronto, as a market, isn't a place most players would like to go.

Edmonton started their rebuild around the same time but they had the advantage of having a market players want to go to along with great drafting. Toronto has been on the bottom for too long but they are never low enough to get good prospects. That, and giving away those couple firsts to Boston has left them depleted.

Burke simply isn't in his environment in Toronto. He did do a poor job, but it was not all on him.

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Date: 1/17/2013 12:59:26 PM
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I like the Lombardi trade. Paying a guy like him 3.5 million and being pleased when he scores 10 goals is ridiculous, and unloading that contract frees up his roster spot for Nazem Kadri (who possibly would have made it anyways) and gives him solid playing time over a 48 game season, and let's us see once and for all whether he's still worth the time, or it's time to get rid of him.

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Date: 1/17/2013 7:52:40 PM
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Burke was fired because he was excruciatingly bad at his job. If he was surly and authoritative and the Leafs were winning, he'd still be here and would be the most beloved man in Toronto. His "approach" being the reason he was fired was propagated by the media. The timing is the only real question (and any reasonable person would suggest it should've happened years earlier).

There's no comparison to be made between Edmonton and Toronto; one rebuilt and the other didn't. One's on the upswing and the other's not. And by the way, Edmonton is one of the very least favourite markets. Players hate Edmonton. Edmonton, though, was able to make itself a more attractive destination for Shultz (and no who else?) by greatly improving their on-ice product and future. Toronto is one of the best pure markets made bad by an abysmal product, and made worse by a deluded GM who makes unrealistic promises. Toronto's not a bad market, they're an awful team with self-inflicted wounds.

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234269.29 in reply to 234269.28
Date: 1/17/2013 10:06:30 PM
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Everything Stajan said!

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Date: 1/20/2013 6:41:12 PM
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This thread is what happens when the Raptors suck.

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Date: 1/20/2013 7:37:56 PM
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Wouldn't this thread happen a lot more often, then?

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