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Well, this thread like Wolph is hipocritical and cheap. My post was clearly stereotypical. Each time he writes about NT, next sentence is about farming if it was cheating. Of course those teams have multiaccount, because he can't understand people can devote their teams strictly for NT.

According to the topic, it's funny that suggestions how to train gives a man, who trained 1 player in his entire career. However I have to agree with Wolph, that multiskilled players are much more worth than players with only primaries.

Last edited by Pewu at 2/13/2013 8:22:46 AM

Training balanced players is first and foremost the best decision from a business point of view. Austrias NT has a player that sold for more than 5 mil - in this f ed economy where 5 mil can buy you a championship roster this is huge.

I myself trained players to become multiskilled (SF) or at least be very special (high IS on a SG) and those players perform way above their salary level and sold for millions despite their relatively low potential (Allstar and perennial Allstar).

So instead of riding the player hater bandwagon, some of you guys should appreciate the advice given.



Last edited by Knecht at 2/13/2013 8:56:52 AM

Nicely said. +1 for you sir.

Wow. Just wow, so many people defensive and taking a good helpful RECOMMENDATION and taking it personally.
I saw many very true, very valid, and very helpful things said that I as a mentor try to get across to those I help. I too agree that some players get wasted, yes you can waste a player by training them poorly, by being poorly trained. Yes those players can be helpful in d. IV and V but I would hope people are aspiring to be in higher divisions than that. Also I could not justify paying 100k for a player salary that can't be a successful long term fixture for my team in league levels where his salary wouldn't be detrimental to me anyways.

Guys "ele" everybody love everybody

you are comparing guys with VERY good secondaries to guys with ONLY primaries. I think this is senseless because nobody who reads the forum is training only primaries.

rather you should compare a trainee (PF/C potential 7-8, height 6'8'' or sth, 5-6 seasons training, because i guess this is how the majority of trainees esp. for beginners looks like)

should he rather look like this:

12 / 8
10 /12
14/10
13/13
13/10

or like this

8 / 4
8 / 8
10 / 8
15 /15
15/ 10

well I guess my question isn't so smart, because in this case we compare a good C against a very efficient PF. but what i wanted to say is, that you have to find a good relation between secondaries and pimaries and not go over the top.

Except that you're using a build with 8 PA and HA as the *low* point in the comparison. I know I just did a search on the TL for giggles for a minimum rebounding of sensational and there are more guys with exactly 1 in both HA and PA than there are with at least 8 in both.

I think there are plenty of people that read the forums that are still churning out the same three-skilled donkeys that litter the TL, whether it be for NT/U21 reasons or ignorance or whatever else. If everyone was getting their secondaries to maybe 6 and this thread was pushing for them all to be double digits, of course, that's a different discussion, but I think wolph's efforts here are dead accurate. There's simply a whole pile of crap players on the TL at any given time because they have been turned into crap by people who are training them like crap. ;)

Last edited by GM-hrudey at 2/13/2013 11:31:47 AM

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Prove it. LVL 4 trainer, primaries ONLY training, 2.5 million in revenue from the 3 trainees. Subtract what the players could ahve been sold for (were bought for) BEFORE you started training them, subtracct cost of trainer for 2 seasons. Now IF they sold for 2.5 million...might work out for you...I almost spit out my beer when I saw you bost though you could sell a player that got primary training for 1million after 2 seasons....maybe if he cost you 1.5 million when you got him at like 22, and just dropped to 1 million after you broke him with your bad training plan.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/98134/transferhistory.as...
mustak u-21 player with 19/20 years-sold for 1M only(due to nature of my job i never know when i will be able to come online so i sold him to croatian guy)+he had injury,2 weeks before i got employed i had 1,5m offer for him but i said no.
bogunovic 500k trained primaries only,sold after 2/3 of season.
there is pure example of training for my u-21 NT and making profit WITH lvl 4 trainer :)
now please next time before u write a post please think what are u writing and go search at least my transfer history.
if u want more examples i will gladly give them to you.u know whole croatian u-21 NT is build with lvl 4-5 trainers?
well i guess japan NT is on such awsome results when their 1st ranked player thinks this way but who cares about NT right :)
oh and srsly next time when u start counting go hit yourself maybe than a miricle can happen and u will understand what im talking about since i guess u are the only person on bb that doesnt understand that u can win a d3- games with primaries only but like ive said before thats because uve never played in d3- league.and just for the record,what do u think how did players looked like when bb started?u really think that somebody bothered to train secondaries?
and just for the record,i said anything about farms? u do know that croatian NT lost starting PG cause we dont have any? i guess u didnt know that.
again i proved everything ive said and all u do is shouting on the moon without any real example.
actually after ive red your post once again im 99% that all u have done ever is training ST/FT/GS

EDIT:prices on TL are something i really dont want to discuss as u can find really whatever u want on TL-do u want to pay is the question.

Last edited by LooKA at 2/13/2013 1:36:05 PM