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From: bazooka71

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Date: 8/19/2008 5:44:05 PM
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Same with me, I sold out my stadium (~16k) after an away loss and now I'm +$100k for the wk so far. I think most people are outraged because 1) they didn't see these changes coming 2) they had a plan, either with training or whatever, that was screwed up by the economic changes and 3) they didn't value the expansion of the stadium as much as they should. I started to plough money into building works after about 1/2 a season, when I realised that it was one of the best ways to build for the future, since there is no upkeep cost like in HT. I bought my trainees this season, sold off some of the dross and then put the rest of my cash into an even bigger stadium, which is going to be the biggest in the country (I think) once it's finished.

People just need to be more flexible and anticipate possible changes rather than be angry that the world of BB scuppered THEIR plans.

From: nuchuist

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45730.22 in reply to 45730.20
Date: 8/19/2008 6:21:37 PM
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Yes it is true, that my income is lowered by 45% if I count also TV money.

It much more!

Lets count together:

Incomes i could have with the old system every week:

$ 250 000 - league game
$ 100 000 - cup game (when every second game I play away game with bot)
$ 100 000 - TV money

$ 450 000 - total income


Incomes with the new system:


$ 150 000 - league game
$ 35 000 - cup game (If the team passes the first 5 rounds)
$ 35 000 - TV money

$ 220 000 - total income
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As you can see we lose more than 50 %

From: ardain
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45730.23 in reply to 45730.22
Date: 8/19/2008 8:51:58 PM
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Well, finally played my first home game.

My first game income is only $2K more than my player salaries. My staff salaries are more than my merchandising income. If I did not have tv revenue, I'd be in the red.

I'm division 2 and I have plenty of room in my arena for more fans. I have 2300 fans.

This is going to be a rough season. Since I'm only breaking even, what is going to happen at the end of this season when my player salaries increase another 30%?

My revenue growth has been about a third of the rate of my player salary growth. If I have to sell my players just to remain solvent, what is the fun in that?

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45730.24 in reply to 45730.21
Date: 8/19/2008 9:32:15 PM
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People just need to be more flexible and anticipate possible changes rather than be angry that the world of BB scuppered THEIR plans.


I am curious to know how it is you believe that people should have anticipated the loss of half their revenue.

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45730.25 in reply to 45730.21
Date: 8/19/2008 10:12:27 PM
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Same with me, I sold out my stadium (~16k) after an away loss and now I'm +$100k for the wk so far. I think most people are outraged because 1) they didn't see these changes coming 2) they had a plan, either with training or whatever, that was screwed up by the economic changes and 3) they didn't value the expansion of the stadium as much as they should. I started to plough money into building works after about 1/2 a season, when I realised that it was one of the best ways to build for the future, since there is no upkeep cost like in HT. I bought my trainees this season, sold off some of the dross and then put the rest of my cash into an even bigger stadium, which is going to be the biggest in the country (I think) once it's finished.

People just need to be more flexible and anticipate possible changes rather than be angry that the world of BB scuppered THEIR plans.


I am curious to know too. And I'll provide counter points :

1) Oh, we saw the changes coming a mile away. The moment they were announced in fact. We just chose to wait until we could see the effect instead of merely speculating.

2) Losing half your income doesn't dent your plans the slightest?

3) Financial solvency has always been a main goal playing the game. I have always valued the arena expansion highly, and my venue rarely sells out as I take the trouble to finance an expansion everytime I think it is necessary. My arena is already the biggest in my country.

I hate sitting on the fence every week, doing a balancing act between being in the black and in the red. If I am going at a rate of +15k every week in a 16 week season, which means 195k after 13 weeks. If I end up 5th and have the last 3 weeks with a weekly expenditure of 200k without any income, I'll end up losing 600k. So my net profit for the entire season as it is : 600k - 195k = (405k).



Last edited by Sparkle at 8/19/2008 10:15:05 PM

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45730.26 in reply to 45730.25
Date: 8/20/2008 1:43:56 AM
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Despite a poor showing at my opening home game I am still making money.....

I am now worried that there will be a new tax for non-domiciled players..... this would sadly push me over the edge......

I gotta say its likely to get tougher out there before it gets easier...

Its not just the actual bottom line figures that effect people its the subsequent handcuffs that non-disciplined managers will find tough to handle.

Most managers love to delve into the transfer market and the changes have basically forced most managers to hold and train. For some this might be fun but I'm willing to bet for others this is a turn off which if people cant splash out cash to help improve their team this will prove a deterrent from the game.

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45730.27 in reply to 45730.26
Date: 8/20/2008 2:46:56 AM
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Most managers love to delve into the transfer market and the changes have basically forced most managers to hold and train. For some this might be fun but I'm willing to bet for others this is a turn off which if people cant splash out cash to help improve their team this will prove a deterrent from the game.



Gotta say, i'm one of those managers.

I'd never even come close to being a day trader or anything like that but i liked checking out the tranfer market and seeing who i could afford, what's out there, what players might improve my team etc and mayyybe making a bid or two (even if i lost) but now i dont even bother because after seeing the revenue from my first home game (also a tv game), it looks like the only money i'll be making this season will be from merchandise.

Early days yet so we'll see how it goes i guess.

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45730.28 in reply to 45730.27
Date: 8/20/2008 2:54:13 AM
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Eventually the prices for players will come down. People won't be able to afford high salary guys but won't be able to charge extortionate amounts because nobody will be able to pay them. Maybe this season will be tough. In three or four seasons we'll all be laughing about the bitter winter of season 6.









I hope.

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
From: ned
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45730.29 in reply to 45730.28
Date: 8/20/2008 4:30:21 AM
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At the end I can say very good changes!

You can see my roster and the salary of my players, I'm in second division and I hope to get the break even point this week, otherwise I'll sell another player. With 200k/salary week you can still not lose money. I've seen some rosters of people posted here before me and I really can't understand why they can blame this new system.
Maybe you can't buy anymore players at 10 millions but some of you can still easily buy player at 5 millions, pls don't cry
This new change put me in trouble but I'm really so happy to face also this problem, only to train and buy is not good for me.

Good luck with your money sirs

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45730.30 in reply to 45730.1
Date: 8/20/2008 6:52:33 AM
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My country isn't big. In fact our total pool of users is about half the users currently online in Italy alone. The standard of play of the top league would probably be somewhere in between Div II and Div III in Italy. But unlike those playing in the lower rungs of the bigger leagues, we are encumbered with the 'income tax' designed to limit the financial power of bigger teams.
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But you dont'know that italian teams now are disadvantaged...in fact,menawhile in other conutries users widened palace,italian teams bought the best players and now have the smallest palace between the top leagues in the world...so now they lost more and more in comparison to you

From: Sparkle

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45730.31 in reply to 45730.29
Date: 8/20/2008 8:34:10 AM
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With 200k/salary week you can still not lose money.


Bold statement, but incorect. I've trimmed my salaries down to under 110k in anticipation of the changes. If I were to set my player salaries at 200k per week, I'd be running at a definite loss. If you say you are running on a 200k per week salary expenditure and still manage a profit, then I guess you've just proven my point.

Steve, I don't understand you. Sorry.

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