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From: alfree

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196854.211 in reply to 196854.210
Date: 6/16/2012 12:38:31 AM
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ok thanks, then I'll keep training him very good, :D

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196854.212 in reply to 196854.210
Date: 6/16/2012 5:14:26 AM
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Mad that Delong won't make it :( Look at him.


Val Delong (24738853)
Center
Weekly salary: $ 3 407
Role: rotation player
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DMI: 8700
Age: 18
Height: 6'10" / 208 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: average
Jump Shot: atrocious
Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: mediocre
Handling: atrocious
Driving: mediocre
Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: respectable↑
Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: inept↑
Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: awful
Free Throw: awful
Experience: atrocious



At least I'll try to get him in. Like a friend of mine said, "It never hurts tryin."



With that upcoming game vs Cometahalley, and you know he's active in the forums... is it the smartest Idea to show him the EXACT skillset of Delong?

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196854.213 in reply to 196854.212
Date: 6/16/2012 11:58:48 AM
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Hahahaha I already knew, he always talks about the training and whatnot... The trainees are highest respectable, so it doesnt matter that much... Plus both of his trainees r bigs, so its not that hard to figure out what is popping heheh

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Date: 6/16/2012 5:40:18 PM
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Mad that Delong won't make it :( Look at him.


Val Delong (24738853)
Center
Weekly salary: $ 3 407
Role: rotation player
(BuzzerBeta)

DMI: 8700
Age: 18
Height: 6'10" / 208 cm
Potential: superstar
Game Shape: average
Jump Shot: atrocious
Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: mediocre
Handling: atrocious
Driving: mediocre
Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: respectable↑
Inside Def.: respectable
Rebounding: inept↑
Shot Blocking: respectable
Stamina: awful
Free Throw: awful
Experience: atrocious



At least I'll try to get him in. Like a friend of mine said, "It never hurts tryin."



With that upcoming game vs Cometahalley, and you know he's active in the forums... is it the smartest Idea to show him the EXACT skillset of Delong?

you got owned tough lol

From: jwils2

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196854.215 in reply to 196854.210
Date: 6/19/2012 10:42:15 PM
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Mad that Delong won't make it :( Look at him.


Dude get over your mancrush on your trainees.

From: tough

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196854.216 in reply to 196854.215
Date: 6/19/2012 10:51:59 PM
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uh what!? mancrush!?!!?????????????!?!?!?! H no! I ain't no gay man, ok ok let's see who'll get 1000 on The Eagle........

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196854.217 in reply to 196854.209
Date: 6/21/2012 12:57:07 AM
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Will do sir. I think he has decent chances because P. Allstars don't cap until long after they are 21. He has no chance at making NT but he has an okay chance at making U21NT if he continues to train him the correct way in my opinion.


This statement is just as wrong as it was the last time you made it. (196854.133)

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196854.218 in reply to 196854.217
Date: 6/21/2012 1:47:01 AM
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It all depends on how you train him. If he plans on making him a 3 skilled monster (Inside scoring, rebounding, inside D) then there is a chance he could cap in the middle/the end of his 21 year old season but if you train some secondaries then he's fine IMO. we can agree to disagree though.

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From: Pip

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196854.219 in reply to 196854.218
Date: 6/21/2012 2:03:34 PM
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Monay is right on this one:

1. If you train a lot secondaries on a big man, he will not make the U21 team. Look at the type of bigs we have on the roster: Trenton Funk, Wofford, Beaucage $136K salary. Then remember in the past we've had elite big men like William Sanders, Marcus Miller, Len Nielsen, all with excellent primaries. You can't afford to take time to train secondaries and compete with all the people training primaries.

2. If you train straight primaries, PAS builds will cap long before they can be useful to the U21 team. Look at those big men I listed, a PAS player would have been capped way before that, meaning they capped somewhere in their 20yo season. That means they won't be improving much if at all in their 21yo season if you did put them on the roster, meaning that top big men from other countries would dominate them at the end of the season.

3. A real-world example from the top of my head: Clayton Sikes (19243863), pretty much capped at $80K salary when he was turning 21, only mild salary increase since then (~$10K in a full season of training, not much for a big man when every primary pop is at least that much of an increase in salary). How is a PAS big like Sikes (caps at $80-90K) going to compete with a big man like Beaucage or Funk ($120K+ and still plenty of room to improve)?

Is there anything else you need to know to convince you that there is virtually no way a PAS big man can make the U21 roster?

Last edited by jfarb at 6/21/2012 9:23:20 PM

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196854.220 in reply to 196854.219
Date: 6/22/2012 7:07:48 AM
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Does one of them has a chance for NT?

Hud Morgan (20750281)
Weekly salary: $ 14 908
Age: 21
Height: 6'5" / 196 cm
Potential: hall of famer

Jump Shot: sensational Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: sensational ↑ Handling: respectable
Driving: respectable Passing: prolific
Inside Shot: awful Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: inept
Stamina: inept Free Throw: awful

Noel Flores (19237489)
Weekly salary: $ 14 155
Age: 22
Height: 6'2" / 188 cm
Potential: MVP

Jump Shot: tremendous Jump Range: proficient
Outside Def.: prolific Handling: respectable
Driving: proficient Passing: respectable
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: strong
Rebounding: inept Shot Blocking: atrocious
Stamina: average Free Throw: inept

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196854.221 in reply to 196854.220
Date: 6/22/2012 7:31:04 AM
Mountain Eagles
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Y-E-S

Just keep training the 21 year old to marvelous OD, after that, go to driving to get that+handling up. Get driving to prominent. Handling to proficient. then after that, just get DR to wondrous, handling to sensational. If you do that + do some OD training, and save JS for last, since that eats salary. Hopefully you'll have a guy like this

JS: wondrous-marvelous
JR: prolific-sensational
OD: stupendous-colossal
HA: sensational
DR: tremendous-wondrous
PA: keep it at prolific, you'll proably get 1-2 more pops in it due to cross-training




Now for the 22 yr old, he might take a while due to his 1 more year aged, but get to training OD. get it to wondrous before you do anything else. Driving+handling=sensational, prolific
then PA to sensational since he's shorter than the 21 yr old. He'll be more suited for a PG. Then back to OD, get that to prodigous. JS to marvelous. Now, he may not cap at what yall think, I'll do a caluation of training after I'm posting this. Hopefully you can get his skills like this:


JS: marvelous
JR: prolific-sensational
OD: prodigious
HA: prolific
DR: sensational-tremendous
PA: sensational-tremendous

For the 22 yr old, it'll be tough, so you may want to just make the 22 yr old the skills that best suit your team.


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