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199844.211 in reply to 199844.199
Date: 11/5/2011 3:50:47 PM
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That's not what I said

I said that the U21/NT manager is not leading if he listens only to other people. I'm not going to do that. Am I going to do it some? Yes, every past manager has listened to their help at some point. However is there sometimes where listening to their help would be the wrong decision? Absolutely. So I plan to listen to me too. That's not a conflict of leading.

So,a hypothetical to elaborate this...Coco, Wozz, and Rambo all say TIE. Your guts says normal. Do you defer or go with your gut?

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199844.212 in reply to 199844.199
Date: 11/5/2011 4:07:14 PM
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If your going to listen to other people why don't we just vote for them? Don't say every past manager has listened to other people because that means that all those managers wer bad too. You shouldn't need other people telling you what to do, that means that your not doing a good job. I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR YOU EVER IF YOU HAVE TO RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE TO MAKE THE HARD CHOICES FOR YOU.

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199844.213 in reply to 199844.212
Date: 11/5/2011 4:15:45 PM
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Well if you go on and do do whatever you want to do and don't rely on other people's advice at this competition you get screwed

Last edited by A1R at 11/5/2011 4:17:06 PM

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199844.214 in reply to 199844.212
Date: 11/5/2011 4:28:43 PM
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We know who you are voting for...yourself, buckeyefan01. ;)

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199844.215 in reply to 199844.210
Date: 11/5/2011 4:52:13 PM
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Sleet and Rambo's training guidelines are a great base to start with. I feel every season we need to reassess what we have and make the guidelines from there. As for extending the guidelines though I think a good thing to do is set the goal high for everyone. By setting the goal high, I feel it will bring out the best in everyone. Where the guidelines are set now it seems everyone reaches the minimum on some categories and I feel we need to go beyond the minimum and provide multiple players that are considered the "best" at the U21 level.

I think as I said earlier about training how we scout, which just recently actually happened, by having the scouts specialize in certain positions will help this. It will provide the best advice for the best players which can lead to even better players on the U21 team.

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199844.216 in reply to 199844.211
Date: 11/5/2011 5:05:35 PM
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Well I'm always leaning TIE so that example probably would never happen since it wouldn't be an issue.
Now if they tell me all to normal and I'm leaning TIE, I'd then look at the scenarios and look at the magnitude of the game. If the scenarios say that we can't afford to lose the game otherwise we'll be too far behind to catch up, I will most definitely listen to Wozz, Coco, and Rambo, but if they want Normal and I see that we are still in decent position even if we do lose, then I'm going to listen to me and TIE.

Enthusiasm is just too critical at the NT level, you have to have a TIE-first mindset, and then proceed from there

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199844.217 in reply to 199844.212
Date: 11/5/2011 5:08:07 PM
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Ok if I lose this election by 1 vote, it will be the Karma gods telling me that I should never listen to other people. Until then, thanks for your input, now please accept and move on.

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199844.218 in reply to 199844.11
Date: 11/5/2011 5:11:06 PM
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VOTE FOR GODBEAR!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
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199844.219 in reply to 199844.210
Date: 11/5/2011 5:39:15 PM
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Much like Sleet and Rambo's training guidelines, what do the candidates feel is something they'll do to further extend a clear cut plan for U21 player development and beyond?


We defiantly need to make it clear that these are only guidelines. We need to tell people that unique players are welcome and can even be preferred in some situations. This will give us more a bigger variety of styles, not just one or two tactics that the team will be playing for a given season. Also we need to tell the players who are training our future stars, that training does not stop after U21. I see a lot of players being sold after they turn 22 years old. It is best that the person who has trained the player that far continue to train the player unless they cannot. This is because, they know the player best and of course, had success with training the player and knows how to train that player.

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199844.220 in reply to 199844.207
Date: 11/5/2011 5:42:05 PM
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your going to lose

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199844.221 in reply to 199844.214
Date: 11/5/2011 5:42:35 PM
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i am not buckeye01 dumbsh1t

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