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How many times did Eita pop in OD since end of my cadency? I think few trainings in this skill should help, without few extra pops he will never be sure to play in NT.

Heh... dunno about that. Proof's in the pudding, as they say.

There will be times when Wakatsuki is key... and time's when he's... not. Remember dude, the NT doesn't revolve around your players. Swoosh has managed the team just fine.

Last edited by malice at 7/22/2013 9:43:28 PM

Eita did have some pops in OD but it stilll isn't great I admit. I also admit K-Mart is a fantastic player. It is just looking at the game shape of so many bigs this week and him being in proficient GS I am surprised he didn't play. He scored a 19.5 rating i his last game for me as PF while instead we went with

K-Mart 16.5
Furusawa 15.5
Asano 16.5 (at SF)
Yasujiro 15.5

It is just a question but I just would like to know why we are playing guys in respectable GS who score 15s rather than guys in proficient GS who score 19s. If there is a good reason I will be more than happy to accept it. If it is secret a bbmail explaining why would be fine.

I agree with malice that the coach has done a great job, I just want to know why Eita isn't playing so I can do something about it.

Ratings depend on enthusiasm and minutes played by player with match. So it's hard to compare two players, who are playing in different clubs.
Eita had rating 19,5 when he played 11 minutes.
In second match at the same week, when he played 48 minutes he had rating only 14,0. It isn't NT level.

It's much harder to compare players, who played on different positions. It's possible, that better player has worse rating. Weak OD has no impact on rating for C/PF positions but impact on final result is higher than zero. When I set lineup as NT coach match ratings were scarcely 3rd of 4th factor. Probably I used few times club ratings as decider, but only in case, when two considered players played in the same club in the same match ;-)

Gee.
Maybe check what their GS actually is...
This was a game that Nippon were a very likely winner of. Perhaps Swoosh decided to try something out...
At any rate - Yasujiro, Asano, K-Mat & Furusawa all played good games. It looks like coach made some good decisions.

And lastly: utilize BBmail yourself - this airing of dirty laundry every time a player of yours is *slighted* is a lil' silly.

Really I don't know what GS is. Maybe a genius like you can tell me, & while at it do it by bbmail so you can be less of a hypocrite.

So if I play the 6th-10th best players & they play well against weak opponents & we win that proves it was a good decision? Wrong yet again. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

Swoosh none of this is directed at you, you aren't being the troll here, I just want to know why he didn't play & if there is something you want me to do training wise to help the NT because I am confused from what I know of the players I have seen & their GS he would have been the best big man but wasn't even able to make the top 12 so there is something I obviously don't know.

"Troll"? Well, if you want to apply that label to yourself... well... ok then.

But perhaps work on comprehending of what was actually said before you start flying off the handle?

Maybe check what their GS actually is...

THEIR GS. As in... the players you decried as only having "respectable" GS. Not *YOUR UNDERSTANDING*.
Once more for clarity (and I'm not trying to be a smartass here - but you did completely miss what the sentence stated!): I was referring to the Game Shape of the players you incorrectly labeled as 'respectable' (note below), not your understanding of *what-GS-is*...

What you said:

It is just a question but I just would like to know why we are playing guys in respectable GS who score 15s rather than guys in proficient GS who score 19s. If there is a good reason I will be more than happy to accept it. If it is secret a bbmail explaining why would be fine.

What I responded with:

Maybe check what their GS actually is...

Their GS wasn't 'respectable'. It was (in 2 cases) 'strong', and in another I believe the same as your Wakatsuki's.
And... comparing what your player does in a league game to what another does is largely irrelevant. People do training, and often train out of position. Hell, last Saturday K-Mat got a 7.5. Does that mean he's awful? No, it means he was playing out of position for training. And it's not like Wakatsuki's getting 19s every game (note the 14s at C).
This is all stuff you know, so I'm not sure why you're bringing up league games as points of comparison.

As I said earlier (and you ignored), perhaps Swoosh simply didn't feel he needed Wakatsuki given that perhaps he thought it might be an easy win. We have a heap of good bigs, some more able to play at multiple positions than others. Some better at some positions than others.

You have a history of this - complaining about *your* players not getting what you feel is enough run... just as I have a history for expressing frustration when you do so. If you did this for other players not your own, I could believe that it was *concern* for the NT. But as is? Well... it's just annoying when you press it this hard, and make incorrect and false accusations.

Last edited by malice at 7/26/2013 5:48:42 AM

As if you are not trying to be a smartass everyone can easily tell, really I didn't know players got lower ratings when they played out of position wow thanks Malice for pointing that out.

The game shape of the players played was mostly respectable - strong maybe 1 was proficient. Sorted by DMI Eita was #2 in the team & the best big.

You guys love to say ignore things because they are not the worlds most perfect measure ever. Ignore ratings, ignore game shape, ignore stats, ignore DMI, ignore salary blah blah blah. You think there is no possible way to compare players at all & figure out who will be best in a particular week? I guess you don't even bother scouting your opponents because there is clearly nothing to learn.

I wasn't going into a detailed statistical analysis of every players average rating divided by the number of minutes multiplied x the enthusiasm, with home court added and effort subtracted. I just looked at each of their ratings in their most recent game. Obviously not good enough for you your highness.

Check your facts & maybe you can stop your incorrect & false accusations.

There was no complaint. I had a simple question. I wanted to know why he wasn't played & what I could do about it with training to help the team. The only 1 complaining was you who can never resist trolling anything Wolph or I say.

How many times did Eita pop in OD since end of my cadency? I think few trainings in this skill should help, without few extra pops he will never be sure to play in NT.

Which is so funny coming from you who used to play Satashi Hayakawa with atrocious OD as a starter.