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Date: 1/25/2016 5:37:06 AM
Estrellas Absurdas
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And I would add that the base is much too weak! An example: in our DB there are currently... 12 18 year old players. 12!!! Fortunately we also keep the 19 year old players from the draft, because you imagine the U21 coach who will have a maximum of...12!!! players to make his 18 men roster!? It's not serious. And don't ask me more time, it's the 25th season I'm busy with our NT. It's really time that new users step up, especially to scout the players between 18 and 21 year old. I have decrease the number of players catched by the draft script to have a better monitoring on these players (because to the low number of scouts we have), but I'm really wondering whether it was a good idea...


Disturbing and alarming situation...
and certainely thinking not all of these 12 will reach the high skill levels necessary for U21. When I was scout we were happy if we could lead 30% of these youngsters towards U21 levels (1/3 of the managers wasn't responding to our calls and about 1/3 were not good trained despite our efforts). Let us hope some lower skilled 18y olds out of the database will also be trained to fill up the gap.
In extra I'm happy to read Joe also took in some 19y old drafts; their starting skills can be somewhat higher and they can have future nevertheless their age (managers who are doubting about this should have a look at my 19y old draft Harm Van Caeyzeele, who was able te reach U21 and now is in the running for a NT-spot as back-up PG).

To keep Buzzerbeater Belgium alive and kicking... I'm also prepared to take back up my scouting work and help so the Belgian U21/NT. (just don't give me 30 or more youngsters to do the folow up... this is too much to bring to do a good folow-up and bring to a good end).

Furthermore, keeping NT players in our roster for lower divisions isn't that evident... Hugo and my trainer are taking more than half of my weekly income and I have hardly enough cash to buy me a new trainer, what at the moment is an urgent matter! Money to buy a promising high potential 18y youngster is missing, so draft or 19y olds are the only options at the moment (hard to see 2 seasons ago a high skilled worldstar 18y just picked before my turn and then spoiled...)


From: AnGi77

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Date: 1/25/2016 7:49:51 AM
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Maybe we should develop a Belgium help forum in which we could discuss all those kind of question and could help new registered managers to better understand the game and maybe we will not lose that many users.


You created already a very nice topic on BB België concerning U21 training!

I'm wondering if some special topic could be created by Dartreb, C3C or Joe in BBBL-forum concerning Belgian U21/NT situation?
BBBL forum is an active one and we could invite active managers in Div II or III in the division forums to join us there. I surely can ask in mij division!
(just for your info; in former times we even had a fed were scouts could discus and inform each other... but this had the disadvantage that non-supporters couldn't join the fed...)

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Date: 1/25/2016 12:52:32 PM
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I'm upset of the market at the moment and I don't know if I will be playing in BB in a few seasons...


And just because of that, training players will become more imortant, especially in a small coutry like Belgium. The big problem is that there's a lack of motivation to train players and I have no idea why because for me, training my players is the most fun part in BB, I would have never reached were I am now without training. The problem is that the most managers don't know the importance of training, so for me the question is: how do we get the managers more motivated to train their young native players? That's why I agree with BigT to create a new forum to help the new managers to understand better the importance of training.
I'm also complaining about the fact that we always have to write in English on the fora, this is preventing me from being more active on it, and I'm sure that there are some other managers who think the same as me. So if we create a new forum why not creating two of them? 1 for the Dutch speaking managers and 1 for the French speaking managers. I think this would raise the activity on a long term. But realising such a thing will need some time and effort, and as said, there are only 3 U21 scouts (Guiguits, BigT and me) so it's nice to hear some motivation to help us out.

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Date: 1/25/2016 3:23:49 PM
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Dividing the forums would be a really bad idea I believe

We have 189 ''active'' teams, how many would participate in such a forum? I would say at really best 30-40? If you would divide them we would still rip the country apart. Many managers including me don't speak dutch, maybe some speak neither dutch nor french. Just look at this like a chance to get better in english language :)

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Date: 1/25/2016 5:25:57 PM
SGOLBA_dynamite
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We have 189 ''active'' teams, how many would participate in such a forum? I would say at really best 30-40? If you would divide them we would still rip the country apart.

Yes ok I understand what you mean. 2 fora could cause a kind of polarity between the French and the Dutch managers, thats true, but what we want is to help the new managers by sharing our experiences with them and the easiest way to do this is in their own langauge. I just think this is the best way for the new managers, I'm speaking about the rookies in the game.
+ If you are speaking about 30-40 managers in a common forum, I would say that there would be about 50 managers in total divided between the 2 fora.
Do you understand my opinion? I think being able to communicate in your own langauge will lead to a higher activity on the forum. Like you say there are people who don't speak dutch, but on the other hand there are also people who don't speak French and English. This people doesn't have the chance now to communicate in the Belgium forum because we always have to write in English

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Date: 1/25/2016 5:38:49 PM
SGOLBA_dynamite
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I have just one question; for some countries if you acquire a player he will have a notification on his player side considering he may be for some value for the NT/U21, how does it come we don't have that for Belgian players


I've found the way to make a U21/national team advertisement. Just click on the player page and to the right of the top you have the list with player history, career stats,... and also 'make a new advertisement' then the national team coaches can select to make an advertisment for national team requirements. Do you think this might be helpfull for the U21/National team?

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I'm also complaining about the fact that we always have to write in English on the fora, this is preventing me from being more active on it, and I'm sure that there are some other managers who think the same as me. So if we create a new forum why not creating two of them? 1 for the Dutch speaking managers and 1 for the French speaking managers. I think this would raise the activity on a long term. But realising such a thing will need some time and effort, and as said, there are only 3 U21 scouts (Guiguits, BigT and me) so it's nice to hear some motivation to help us out.


right i'm going to say 2 things concerning this part:

1) if you want to make that forum, it's outside of BB. that for the very simple reason that long ago, in his wisdom, GM-LoD made the decision to post everything in English because the managers don't understand enough of both languages to allow users to communicate in dutch/french. If we do make 2 fora, it will just futher divide the forum (& nation). i don't think you read my post well, but where as i acknowlege the problem of wirting in English, it's a necessairy evil.

2) i won't stop you from writing guides in both languages and appointing managers to answer to them in both languages by PM. but that is as far as i will premit things to go. Some managers have complained in the past when things were written in French, cause they considered dutch the language of the nation. Others complained that the 3 GM's Belgium has had were all dutch and that the walloon part of the country isn't properly represented. So to avoid any complaints, the forum should remain in english. If you don't approve, feel free to try and make an external forum. but i doubt you'll get enough animo on it to sustain it. futhermore, you should know, making an external forum means that you are pulling people away from these forums.

@Joe: give me 5 managers this season. i won't be in belgium to do the scouting, but i'll be back by week 2. so i'll be happy to follow up some managers & guide them through the training part ;)

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