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I know what you mean, I think you just feel that someone needed just 1 or 2 more pops for you to feel complete.

Somewhat :-) But yeah, I feel that some of those guys I'm talking about should have pop at least once by now, and with every new week that passes by and they don't, I wonder if maybe there is something wrong with the training itself. Especially taking into account all these training delays that are running second season straight, and overall just the fact that the GE has not been on top of things lately. We know that is true - this is not something I'm making up just to support my case - I mean, BB's themselves admitted that there is quite a few things within a game that are not working properly - they even fired a guy - and considering everything, I don't think it's all that crazy to assume that one of those things "not working properly" might be related to training updates.
I'm not saying that it's a sure thing, of course, but clearly, taken the amount of trainings my guys have received over a course of seasons - meaning, not just this season, or past season, but over a course of several seasons - I thing something fishy is going on. And just for the record, I'm not the only one who has this kind of problem. In my league, there is a guy who claims that he hasn't had a single pop for 7 weeks straight, and his guys are much younger than mine, so yeah, I don't know; it's definitely a bit weird.

There is always the possibility that the 27 year old has capped
that player you are concerned about
has a $12,784 salary and has starter potential

I have a 21 year old with starter potential
his salary is $13,383 and at age 20 I got no more pops last season

Players have sub levels of potential as well
he obviously is closer to 6th man than he is to star potential

Andy Patience (17809797) Shooting Guard

Well, that was definitely one of my concerns early on, and while that might be true for some of my players, I don't think that is the case with Simpson. As a matter of fact, he is the reason I dismissed capping as an option, because you see, there is no way he caps at 12K. Just no way.
I have no idea where you gather your information from, but I had 6th man potential player before and I easily trained him up to 17K, so once again, even if Simpson barely made it to his Starter potential, he would still have more cup space than any of 6th man potentials, and as I just said, 6th man potential can go all the way up to 17K, perhaps even 20K if their potential sub-level is high enough.
As for your player stopping to improve at age of 20, and barely at 13K salary, if he received a substantial amount of training and failed to pop even once last season, I would be worried if I were you :-) because he sure didn't cap. Starter potential don't cap that low; they can easily be trained up to 20K and more - I have seen numerous Starter potential players at 30K even.
All in all, the example you showed me - your own player stopping to improve at age of 20 and 13K salary - is more supportive of my concern that there might be something wrong with training updates, than yours that my player(s) simply just capped.

Last edited by Mr. Hyde at 11/20/2011 7:34:23 PM

Actually, if you play around with the training planner at the USA offsite, you can pretty easily create a 12K salary point guard which has a cap number, using Josef Ka's coefficients, at the lower end of starter potential. Maybe your guy just had an unlucky sublevel of potential?

Interesting. I didn't know that. But 12K? Really? Oh well.

Salary and capping are not directly connected. He can have high sublevels since you are still training him and could cap just before popping in several skills. His virtual salary might be a bit higher because of those sublevels, but you won't see it before next season's salary update.

According to JosefKa's potential formula, he could look something like this:

JS 9, JR 9
OD 10, HD 10
DR 10, PA 10
IS 1, ID 1
RB 1, SB 1

That's ~ 13k, starter potential with low sublevels.

If he's your pet player, I understand why you are wasting your time training him...but if he's not, buy some Perennial Allstar 18yold for 10k, train him three seasons and then sell for 800k...at least that's what I would do if I was training two-position.

Last edited by Koperboy at 11/23/2011 4:16:15 AM

My player Ciamas plays 2 matches this week, 27 ìminutes in the first match 15 minutes in the second, total is 42 minutes but the training's window signs him for only 27 minutes. I WANT CORRECT TRAINING MINUTES, what i have to do???

Excuse my weak english..

There is an announcement on the front page regarding this. It will be fixed.

I have the same problem at the moment, it worked fine this morning and now it's like one of the 2 matches i played didn't count for the training...

Salary and capping are not directly connected. He can have high sublevels since you are still training him and could cap just before popping in several skills. His virtual salary might be a bit higher because of those sublevels, but you won't see it before next season's salary update.

According to JosefKa's potential formula, he could look something like this:

JS 9, JR 9
OD 10, HD 10
DR 10, PA 10
IS 1, ID 1
RB 1, SB 1

That's ~ 13k, starter potential with low sublevels.

Actually, he looks even better than that, so I guess, it's quite possible that he did, in fact, cap then. I just wanted him to pop one more time in OD and PA is all. And I know that, with amount of training he received so far, he is well overdue for one. If it weren't for the capping, obviously.
As for the training itself, yes, he is a pet of mine :-) All my players are, really, or I would never train them this late in their careers. I know how training works - though some of the people here expressed their doubt into that :-) - and if I weren't waiting for those guys to pop "just one more time", I would switch to normal training (training 18 or 19-year-olds) many times by now.