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Date: 11/14/2012 1:03:34 AM
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Good post, thanks for sharing!

@Shoei
I agree with a lot of your points.

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Date: 11/14/2012 3:28:14 AM
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as for management the matter is buss should be given the boot, the very reason why phil jackson wasnt hired is because he doesnt want to be proven wrong as he also got rid of whatever phil jackson influence in laker land. he wanted to prove that he can create a championship team and get rings for years to come outside of the traingle offense, outside the what he seems to think as BS phil jackson doctrine.

as we all know phil jackson is good to players and is a hard ass with management. if it were you would you put the guy again where you work hard to get rid off?

I think the Jim Buss vs Jackson is a fair point - and I do expect that you're right, but aren't we ignoring Mitch Kupchak? Kupchak's had an amazing off-season - one of quite a few, and to put Jackson in would mean a significant impact on what his job would be from that point on. That would be treating one of the association's best GMs pretty harshly.

I do feel that quite a few people here expect that *Phil Jackson* would have been the *Phil Jackson of 2008-10*, not the *Phil Jackson of 2011*.
May I ask why people expect that?

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Date: 11/14/2012 8:52:10 AM
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to put all things into perspective my thoughts are kupchak is just an obedient general under the president or the loyal right hand under the king.

if we look at the news, wasnt it kupchak who said that brown is secured on his coaching job only to change just after 24 hours ?

That was Jim Buss. And Kupchak's the one who's done those deals (Howard... Nash... Pau). Jim/Jerry Buss sign off on them, but the legwork is done by Kupchak.

And as far as the salaries, the Lakers have to be competitive at the very top levels... the Buss family's money comes from the team. And even tho' the team costs a helluva lot to run (salaries in excess of 100 million!), it's still nothing towards the money they get from their TV deal with TWC, the merchandising, the ticketing. If LA aren't a competing team, then relatively soon that money will cease to flow. The Buss family have done brilliantly with this tho': the team is a self-perpetuating juggernaut.

edit: I guess the alternate view would be that the Buss family have been INCREDIBLY lucky...

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Date: 11/14/2012 4:17:23 PM
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Fair enough. Thing is, if that's your take on Kupchak, wouldn't that be true of EVERY GM?

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I think Jerry Buss is pretty hands-off except for outlining how much he wants to spend. I think Jim Buss is a bit more involved... but I think the reason the Lakers have the roster they do (and have had the rosters they've had) is largely because Mitch Kupchak (and before him Jerry West) have put those rosters together. Not the owner. I do think that Jerry Buss is more than willing to spend tho'.

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Date: 11/15/2012 10:19:25 PM
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to sum up down the line its the owners who decide, no one aside from the owners can decide what to do with their money without the owners approving it or knowing it. thats how it goes any where.

Well... I never really said any different. I never said the GMs make the decisions without ownership's knowledge or agreement.
The deals are put together by the GMs. The GMs do the work, the GMs orchestrate the trades. Yup - the owners sign off on 'em.

I guess what I said earlier was a bit confusing...

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