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From: 7ton

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233372.22 in reply to 233372.19
Date: 12/23/2012 9:40:10 AM
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Yes. Seriously. Larger arena. If you also believe in bigger crowd means more income.

Your hard cap is 20.4k, not 22k. Because no matter how you change the prices, your arena at this size would never fill anything above 20.4k. Your hard cap moves with your arena size.

Hard cap = 19000 + 2000 * 0.5 + anything above * 0.2

I have never seen an arena that doesn't follow this.

It's perfect if anyone can prove something with math but that's not always possible. But showing hypothetical numbers is no exact proof either.

From: GM-Eran

To: 7ton
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233372.25 in reply to 233372.21
Date: 12/23/2012 8:30:39 PM
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since the beginning of the season, I put an effort and built around 3000 lower tier seats, 700 seat expansion at a time. I've seen that my income steadily raise, regardless of me winning or losing. Have a look.

12/1/2012 League Game against Fire Breathing Rubber Duckies $ 314 398
12/8/2012 League Game against "ROAD RUNNER" HAIFA $ 339 421
12/18/2012 League Game against MAC.BEIGALE HAKRAYOT $ 339 865
12/22/2012 League Game (Televised) against the Splinters $ 350 885

I'm adding more and more lower tier, For now it works out well for me, currently at 4911. I accept what you guys are saying, looking at wolphs arena sure makes me second guess my claims, but for the moment that's the biggest proof I can give you. Also stating again that, not knowing if it's related or not, I have the highest income in my league.

From: 7ton

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233372.27 in reply to 233372.24
Date: 12/24/2012 7:51:27 AM
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So why are you stretching the attendance close to your arena limit? Why aren't you working with less people and find your optimum? 15k? 18k? Why not? And why was the arena cap introduced so that we can't get much more than 20k people easily? There must be good reasons. You should know this.

More people often means more income if you look at individual cases. Comparison with others is difficult. Stop being hypocritical and pretend you don't know this. What you are suggesting is like saying I should earn the same as you if we have identical arena and prices.

From: 7ton

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233372.28 in reply to 233372.25
Date: 12/24/2012 8:30:25 AM
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Sorry but that's not enough. Many of us share the experience of improving income by adding more seats. You didn't show what's so special about lower tiers over other seat types so that it's best to have more lower tiers. You may have the highest income in your league (i didn't check), but do you also realize you have one of the biggest arenas and you are enjoying the promotion boost?

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233372.31 in reply to 233372.2
Date: 12/24/2012 4:10:22 PM
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I've been building my lower tier for about 3 seasons now and completely left my bleachers around 11800. But when they're priced at $20 and they're full every, single game I finally decided that I needed to build more this week.

I definitely don't think that 10000/10000/500/50 if the optimum number as the guys that have that many lower tier built can't fill more than 7000-8000 of them at the lowest price point. At the same time, I don't think that 15000/5000/500/50 is the best number either. I think the perfect number falls somewhere in between those 2 sizes. Right now I'm leaning towards something in the 13000/7000 range although 12500/7500 might be ideal too.

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