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242411.22 in reply to 242411.21
Date: 6/11/2013 10:09:21 PM
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I'm surprised that you can't see the huge similarity between shooting a basketball from one spot/distance and shooting a basketball from a different spot/distance. I didn't realize that some people see them as 2 completely unrelated skills. We'll just have to disagree.

Just for kicks, here's a link to the NBA players with the highest active 3FG%. Just click on each name and you can check out their individual career FT%. Just for kicks of course. ;)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fg3_pct_activ...


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242411.23 in reply to 242411.22
Date: 6/11/2013 10:14:10 PM
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Have you even read any of my posts? It certainly does not appear that you have, since you keep claiming I have made statements I have not.

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Date: 6/11/2013 10:21:14 PM
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I read what you wrote, I just don't agree with what you wrote. Big difference.

Much of what you wrote had absolutely nothing to do with the one point I was trying to make, so I ignored it. And you wanted emperical evidence to agree with my simply point that all shooting skills are related, which I find ridiculous. Hence I replied with sarcasm.

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242411.26 in reply to 242411.24
Date: 6/11/2013 10:33:25 PM
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Then why did you keep claiming I said things which I hadn't?

I don't have a problem with someone disagreeing with what I wrote, but you never actually responded to what I wrote. You made up your own little claims about what I wrote and instead responded to them.

By the way, you did it again here by claiming that I asked for empirical evidence that all shooting skills are related. Not something I asked for.

Also not something your link actually provides, either. lol

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242411.27 in reply to 242411.26
Date: 6/11/2013 11:01:31 PM
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Also not something your link actually provides, either. lol



And where exactly did I say it did?

All that lecturing and yet...... you're something else bud.

BTW, this is exactly how you responded to my initial post. Based on what empirical evidence?. Now you're claiming that you didn't ask for it?

I know your type, I won't be responding again.




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242411.28 in reply to 242411.27
Date: 6/11/2013 11:39:24 PM
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There is a reasonable question being lost in this argument, namely why is any player in this game bad enough to miss all 1700 FTA in his career? Just playing and training for 15 seasons would result in improvement.

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242411.29 in reply to 242411.28
Date: 6/12/2013 12:25:28 AM
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I think a player should instantly pop in the free throw skill after he attempts 200. Then 500. Then 750. Then 1000. That would easily prevent things like that from happening. Or simply do what others have suggested and made free throws correlate with jump shot (Every 3 or 4 jump shot pops also pops free throws once).

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242411.30 in reply to 242411.27
Date: 6/12/2013 12:29:15 AM
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Sorry if I ruffled your feathers.

I probably shouldn't bother because, y'know, you'll just claim you know "my type". And I'm guessing you consider lecturing a pejorative? I'm not certain how your responses to me have been any less lecturing than mine to you, but whatever.

But again, you aren't reading what I've written. I initially asked for empirical evidence that training jump shooting trains a person's FT ability. That's very different from asking if good three point shooters are also good FT shooters in the real world.

Btw, you did notice that not all of the top 3 point shooters in your link are over 80% Ft shooters, right? And this despite the fact that all of those guys train both 3pt shooting and FT shooting fairly seriously. Rather hard to believe, isn't it?


redcpedt asked:
There is a reasonable question being lost in this argument, namely why is any player in this game bad enough to miss all 1700 FTA in his career? Just playing and training for 15 seasons would result in improvement.

In the real world, sure. But this is a simulation where the manner in which players improve is very much nothing like how a person in the real world improves. The only reason there are players in this game who manage to take that many FTs and miss them is because the people playing the game have decided to never train FT. In the real world, I doubt you could find a basketball player at any level who doesn't train FTs at least a little bit every week, if not day. In BuzzerBeater it is something many refuse to train (and then come to the forums and complain about their poor FT shooters) so you end up with these oddities - guys who make Shaq look like a FT god!

Most teams have at least two weeks a season where they will only have two games. Just taking one of those weeks each season (heck, even every other season) will turn a 0% FT shooter into a more realistic terrible FT shooter in fairly short order.

They already changed the training once to add "cross-training" due to how silly and unrealistic many people were training their players and then complaining about so many players being uni-dimensional. While I'm not in favor of it, perhaps they should reduce the amount of JS and JR training one gets when training Jump Shot and put that percentage toward FT shooting. Of course, then people will complain about how slow Jump Shot training improves JS and JR. I just don't think it is really needed, given how easy it is for anyone to actually improve FT if they truly care about it.

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242411.31 in reply to 242411.16
Date: 6/12/2013 6:22:18 AM
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Sounds great ...

I agree that there should be correlation between JR and FT.

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242411.32 in reply to 242411.29
Date: 6/12/2013 9:17:38 AM
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I think a player should instantly pop in the free throw skill after he attempts 200. Then 500. Then 750. Then 1000. That would easily prevent things like that from happening. Or simply do what others have suggested and made free throws correlate with jump shot (Every 3 or 4 jump shot pops also pops free throws once).


Awesome idea. I can't wait for my guys to get rebounding pops when they pull down their 1000th career rebounds. Oh, wait, we're only doing this for FTs because it can't be traine... uh, yeah.

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