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NT injuries: do they ever last?

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39702.22 in reply to 39702.19
Date: 7/22/2008 10:19:11 AM
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That is ridiculous. Why would want to offer our players up for the sake of the game? It sounds selfish, but fair. In real life, you get the say if a player may or may not play in the NT.

First of all, it's not for the sake of the game. It's for the sake of the enjoyment of other users. What you're suggesting is hard-coding a sabotage tool -- I buy the strongest player on Bulgaria's rival teams, and pull him from the national squad. Perfectly legal. Go me!

And no, in real life you don't get a say on whether a player may or may not play in the NT. In most competitive sports, national federations are mandated by the respective international confederation to release players for NT games.

So you are saying, that people should treat a player being in the NT a bad thing. Therefor resell them and replace them with worse players that are not in the NT.
And once they get selected for the NT, i should replace them again. Why should the NT result in such a troublesome routine?

You are the one suggesting that you have a problem with your player being on a NT, not _people_. This does not come free of benefit nor free of risk. If you are not satisfied with the risk/reward ratio, you're free to replace the player with a player of equal or similar skill that is not an NT player.


By far the easiest way to solve this, is just remove injury from NT games. Not your way of trading players. Sure, it's challenging, but what's the point?

'By far the easiest way' to solve headache is to chop someone's head off. Hmmm...

On top of that i could easily find a way to abuse this rule, in order to win the first league, as an NT coach. Not that i'm an NT coach, but you might see people invite a top-notch player from a competitive team in order to try and injure him via NT matches.

Yeah, good luck with that. Should we also hide player skills from NT coaches? This is even easier to abuse.

Once a player is branded an NT player, the manager will receive a handicap. An extra chance of an injury, without any advantages/compensation whatsoever.

The fact that you keep harping on this does not make it true. NT players receive extra experience for playing in the NT games.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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39702.23 in reply to 39702.21
Date: 7/22/2008 10:20:34 AM
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Most of the international games are played outside the league period.

Not really true.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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39702.24 in reply to 39702.23
Date: 7/22/2008 11:43:52 AM
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The fact that you keep harping on this does not make it true. NT players receive extra experience for playing in the NT games.


I've never seen any proof of it. The experience system is the most random and ununderstandable thing in BB imo.

I've never seen a injury carried over from NT games to league matches as well.

Untill I see proof of any of these statements I assume that all NT games are played in arcade mode, just like PL games. Because that's the most logic conclusion atm.

I agree with most of the points of Rice here as well. Although GMs just do not get 'extra information'. What's know by the GMs game-wise can and probably is known by many managers.

PS. Speaking for myself here.

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39702.25 in reply to 39702.24
Date: 7/22/2008 11:48:05 AM
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NT games give experience, that is a fact.

I'm waiting for an answer on the injury front.

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39702.26 in reply to 39702.25
Date: 7/22/2008 11:50:32 AM
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Yeah that's what they say all the time. My player played many NT games and almost every league game and cup game for the last 2,5 seasons and he only got 1 pop in experience yet (from 1 to 2).

The facts / rules might indeed be like that, but my feeling says it's just not right.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 7/22/2008 11:51:19 AM

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39702.27 in reply to 39702.26
Date: 7/22/2008 11:55:39 AM
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I've asked directly about this a crapload of times, and each time it's checked and confirmed.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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39702.28 in reply to 39702.23
Date: 7/22/2008 12:19:34 PM
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Basketball:
How many are played within the league season. Maybe qualifying games which is 2 games or something. How many games do they play in a league, 80?
How many internationall games do basketball have? As far as i know only the olympics. Which is once every 4 years.

That's 2-320 games. A really small percentage.

Soccer:

They play 30+ league games in a season. Where as maybe 2-4 games international. And it's not an annual thing too. Play international every 2 year probably. so about 6 games compared to 70 games they play in league. On top of that, the majority of their games are played outside regular season.

BB-Universe:

We play 21 games in a league-season + maybe 8 extra if you count cup games. And, what, 13 games international in a season?
And you say the chance of injury is the same in a regular game. So each NT player is facing a +/- 50% increase of getting an injury compared to regular players.

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39702.29 in reply to 39702.26
Date: 7/22/2008 12:20:57 PM
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Yeah that's what they say all the time. My player played many NT games and almost every league game and cup game for the last 2,5 seasons and he only got 1 pop in experience yet (from 1 to 2).

The facts / rules might indeed be like that, but my feeling says it's just not right.

Experience grow slowly. We don't really know how it grows, either. It does seem though that all games give you the same amount of experience. I have seen a player pop after a NT game, so NT games do give you experience.

If BB is anything like HT, the going rate will be 2 full seasons for experience level pop. Given that BB is a total of 5 seasons old, it is not surprising that few experience pops have been observed. This rate looks about par to me, though.

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39702.30 in reply to 39702.22
Date: 7/22/2008 12:35:15 PM
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First of all, it's not for the sake of the game. It's for the sake of the enjoyment of other users. What you're suggesting is hard-coding a sabotage tool -- I buy the strongest player on Bulgaria's rival teams, and pull him from the national squad. Perfectly legal. Go me!


I don't know many managers that value their NT over their own team.

'By far the easiest way' to solve headache is to chop someone's head off. Hmmm...


Oh please...

On top of that i could easily find a way to abuse this rule, in order to win the first league, as an NT coach. Not that i'm an NT coach, but you might see people invite a top-notch player from a competitive team in order to try and injure him via NT matches.


Oh please... if you really one of those managers that think knowing your opponents skills will win you your game and that skill attributes drive the game. Then I'll say that Injuring an opponents player is far more devastating than knowing their skills.

Once a player is branded an NT player, the manager will receive a handicap. An extra chance of an injury, without any advantages/compensation whatsoever.


Well how does 45-50% increased chance of injury sound to you?

Last edited by Legen...Riceball...Dary! at 7/22/2008 12:36:11 PM

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39702.31 in reply to 39702.29
Date: 7/22/2008 12:45:20 PM
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If BB is anything like HT, the going rate will be 2 full seasons for experience level pop. Given that BB is a total of 5 seasons old, it is not surprising that few experience pops have been observed. This rate looks about par to me, though.


Internationals pop way faster in HT than 2 full seasons. I think about 3 official games. Since we play 13 NT games a season, for some countrys almost all official, I would expect way more pops if the system would be like HT.

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39702.32 in reply to 39702.28
Date: 7/22/2008 12:48:26 PM
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How many are played within the league season. Maybe qualifying games which is 2 games or something. How many games do they play in a league, 80?
How many internationall games do basketball have? As far as i know only the olympics. Which is once every 4 years.

That's 2-320 games. A really small percentage.


are u series??? u dont seem to be very interested in basketballl....;-)

in basketball a lot more internationational games are played then in soccer.

each summer either an european championship or a world championship or olympics!

AND many many qualification and preperation games for each tournament. E.G. the captain of the german national team played more then 200 game with the national team

Last edited by Huzzel at 7/22/2008 12:59:47 PM

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