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No offense to you juice, and nominally you do address the responsiveness, but its very much an inner cult of you and a maybe 1-2 other people making the gametime decisions. what good would my input do to sway the minds of you and kdb et al?

We had 5 users (including myself) in the tactics thread on the offsite forum discussing the game, and another 3-4 via other means of communication.

That's certainly not 1-2 people.

2) flatout better tactics. this partially surprises me since i thought you almost helped build the engine. i mean you live near harvard where charles et al created the game engine. I have had to try my best to reverse engineer it, and i havent gotten it 100% right. i will have to watch my games and not just the box scores to track the statistics i truly want to track this year as well. that is a huge disadvantage yet i still feel with equal teams and on a neutral court i could win 55 out of 100 against you. that seems minor but its really huge.

I disagree, of course.

My main question is, in a must win game, why would you use a Patient offense?

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Most any other offense and you probably, IMO, win.

Can you point to a game in these past Worlds besides the Spain game where the tactics were completely ridiculous to use in the first place (and not simply a matter of they used something off the wall)?

3) iffy. from day 1: possibly. from your last 4 matches on, almost assuredly not. you were, as you pointed out, in something of a hole. you went into the germany game a 25-75 dog, and didn't do anything stupid to blow it. i really disliked your call in the semifinals 2 seasons ago with the all big lineup, but it's not my place to criticize given that while i saw almost everything i could (including forums), there may have been factors privy to you only.

That was a risk against a team we felt was superior to us on a talent level, and it still may have worked had we not used Let Coach Decide, and ran Strictly Follow Depth Chart instead. Against Germany in the semis I felt we had a shot if we played well. We had a shot and almost got there.

4) they deserve what they got. Those who know me know i can be feisty. I would certainly have handled the taunting you got from the south americans differently. I really despair a country that doesnt have any real turnout, just as last elections turnout for our senior NT SUCKED. YEt i think the tide is turning in the US. If nothing else it might be worthwhile to check into global. I will be more democratic in general, and more exciting.

The South Americans? Who are they? Does that particular nation still play at the NT or U21 level?

Honestly, if you win reelection with another lousy turnout, our whole country loses. If I am going to lose I hope the turnout is at least triple and people feel good about their choice.

I want there to be a big a turnout as possible - the will of the community is what matters. Last time we had 51 votes total. The previous two elections I received 63 and 64 votes, respectively.

I don't like that.

The activity level has started to rise again, and we're going to be debuting an offsite chat room in the next day or two that is very easy to use and log into, which hopefully drives activity up.

One question for each candidate:

Juice: how do you explain the loss against Australia (which arguably made everything more complicated)? none of our peer countries (Spain, Italy, the Netherlands) lost against them.

In particular, how would you put us in a position where our success does not depend on an (exciting, but costly) streak of risky gambles?

Gunner: you seem to have gone from one of the coolest managers in Div. II (making the playoff your first season there) to not even making the playoffs and playing crucial games with questionable tactics (Patient offense in a crucial game?). How do we know which of these two managers would show up at the helm of the NT?

coco i think my earlier answer will address alot of your questions, but i got married may 9th. i promise you i won't have a bigger event in my life anytime soon, if ever, so the crap performance this season can be easily explained.

i also made the finals season 2 in d2. season one with an identical record to this year i came in 4th, and bowed out without making the game super interesting.

while i could do some limited player checking and mild limited banter on the forums via iphone, the iphone doesnt really do a good job of setting lineups (not horrible actually but often getting in the right players is a challenge)

i did all of my lineup setting remotely the week before. i was hoping for a certain # of losses from the 4th place team, and if i made the playoffs great, if not no big deal. i had punted on trying to win the season after selling my starting PF and my 3rd best guard (who saw a ton of minutes since i was playing my best player at SF frequently for obscure training reasons)

i dislike the patient tactic immensely in general, but with 4 games left i had 2 sure wins (a bot and a crappy team that lost their relegation playoff), and 2 games i wasn't expecting anything out of. i thought that if i won big and lost small point differential alone might carry the day. (as you know everyone at d1 and d2 can brutalize a bot, its just a question of how badly)

with the nt, there is no training really to worry about, and while there is a long range vision, a country of our size and resources must be trying to win NOW first and foremost. so you will see me full guns blazing, opening up to ideas from everywhere, and taking it to teams, running up the score when approrpriate and playing to maximize our win chances other times. While intuitively you'd think slowing the pace does that, experience shows the decrease in offensive efficiency just merely ensures a close loss, instead of a close game, so you'd be unlikely to watch me whip out princeton or patient etc etc.

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I also have a good RL reason of course. I got married. In a related story, i punted on the season about a week before my wedding. I am now married, and have no major RL events on the horizon, barring some catastrophe that may or may not be 9 months away (kidding, sort of)

i don't like this. As a person, I totally understand and can sympathize. But, as anyone who as played Hattrick can understand, I don't want our NT manager to "punt" on a season, because he had a baby or other such thing.

You SHOULD take care of your RL before BB, but that isn't a great quality in a NT manager.

Just my two cents, for both of you.

Daniel

fair enough. i would always put something that big before BB, but again i promise that i have no such items on the horizon :)

i can also say i would take the national team much more seriously than my own, as i'd have the hopes of thousands riding on my shoulders.

We have 7 people registered, only three speeches, and only two candidates in the debate thread.

Let's go!

2) flatout better tactics. this partially surprises me since i thought you almost helped build the engine. i mean you live near harvard where charles et al created the game engine. I have had to try my best to reverse engineer it, and i havent gotten it 100% right. i will have to watch my games and not just the box scores to track the statistics i truly want to track this year as well. that is a huge disadvantage yet i still feel with equal teams and on a neutral court i could win 55 out of 100 against you. that seems minor but its really huge.

While the BBs do not typically intervene in elections or speeches, I want make sure that everyone understands that none of the GMs (except those who were BBs in the past, and GM-JuicePats was not one of these) has ever seen the code that goes into the site or the game engine, nor do they have an increased understanding of it through their interaction with the BBs.

Hey I am a new candidate and if you have any questions you want to ask me, fire away.

What do you bring that makes youo the best option. From what i can see you have niot had success in the cup and last season you were middle of the road in D III

I didn't do well in the cup because my first game was against a D2 team and I played my scrubs to get them their training and keep my star players with good game shape. last year was my first year in D3 and I didn't have the talent needed to be a dominant force. I also suffered a few injury setbacks during the middle of the season which caused a few losses.
I think I am the best option because I am new fresh, blood who is good at using tactics, seeing the best talent among players, and helping set training plans to maximize player strength. I am fun and creative and you will never be bored with me being the coach.