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From: Isaiah

To: SREZ
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205736.220 in reply to 205736.210
Date: 6/8/2012 12:03:17 PM
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You are very correct with the triple 12 player performing better and being more valuable for your team. The problem everyone is having is that SB numbers dont show up very much. A guy may have 1.5 blocks per game in a season and everyone is going to say that it it useless because it only disrupted 1.5 shots during the game. That is incorrect. SB effects several plays throughout a game. A guy with 12 ID and 12 SB will provide better defense and allow a lower percentage of shooting from their opponents as well as disrupt layups from the guards. However, it will only disrupt the guards if you are playing a zone. But that is the purpose of SB really I believe in this game is to run the zones more efficiently. Everyone says the 2-3 zone doesnt work, when in fact it isnt that it doesnt work, its the fact that nobody builds a center qualified to run it. Hopefully when I finish my SB study it will be able to show you guys the value in SB. But right now where it stands, I dont think a starting center should have SB lower than 9. Any lower will result in a big giving up a higher percentage of shooting then they are really worth.

From: Rycka

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205736.221 in reply to 205736.220
Date: 6/8/2012 12:09:47 PM
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A guy may have 1.5 blocks per game in a season and everyone is going to say that it it useless because it only disrupted 1.5 shots during the game.


i wonder, why it is like that. you can't see any inside defense reflecting stat, yet shot blocking is the one which is underrated. can anybody say exactly what does inside defense does and prove it? :D

From: Marot
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205736.223 in reply to 205736.222
Date: 6/8/2012 2:36:20 PM
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Some things i've tested/noticed after 11 weeks of training SB;

I agree with BB-Charles, the effect of SB is not related to the number of blocks (that's why the managers doesn't see the effect of it, because they think it's just related to the number of blocks.

For example with my team after all this trainings i saw more helps from my players that had SB while playing in m2m(normally that play ends failed from the opponent).

So that means they can disturb a player while shooting, but you don't notice what happened, that's the main problem i see, you don't know exactly the impact of it.

- SB has no relation with fouls. If you have 1 player that makes lot of fouls, training SB won't help.

- When i play in zone, normally i make more blocks than when i play in m2m(X2). I guess it's because when you play in m2m the helps are not usually, but when you play in zone they make more helps so as a result they also make more blocks.


Another thing i've noticed is that a player with high SB can block an open shot or a 3 point shot without problems, so the skill can work with outside/inside players. As far as i know i just know 1 outside player with high SB that is training atm on Colombia.

More or less my guess is that it starts to be usefull >10, under 10 the effect is really reduced/low


Also noticed that against layups i make more blocks. That's a good point i saw, because sometimes it's impossible to stop the layups from the outside players.


Anyway is not a training where you see the effect it in just 3-4 matchs, it takes time, but in general it helps to defend. If i had to chose between having 1 player with SB 17 and the other on 7 or having 2 players with SB 12, i would choose the second option.


If more people wanna test this training, feel free to share your opinions ¡

Last edited by Marot at 6/8/2012 2:53:05 PM

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205736.225 in reply to 205736.216
Date: 6/8/2012 9:13:10 PM
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From the game manual,

An inside or outside focus means that teams will try to get more inside/outside shots, but the players will still take the best shots they can, and if the opposing inside defense is making it impossible to score near the basket, they won't attempt many inside shots no matter what you do.


I usually play outside offense, but whenever my opponent plays 3-2 or 1-3-1, I see more inside shots. From experience, I found teams with good shot blocking and playing one of those defense troublesome.

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205736.227 in reply to 205736.1
Date: 6/13/2012 8:00:23 AM
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Shotblocking happens 3 times a game!

a waste of time

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205736.228 in reply to 205736.227
Date: 6/13/2012 8:33:58 AM
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shotblocking isnt only just the blocks in a game but raises the possibility the opponent to shoot with defence and not a free shoot which has more chances to go in.

shotblocking also helps i think if someone uses zones like 3-2...some shotblocking can make the difference

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205736.229 in reply to 205736.227
Date: 6/13/2012 8:58:25 AM
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i average 8 blocks the game, so the other makes -5? And i have just one blocker who is sligthly in the double figures.

Edit: sry 2, one have 10 since the beginning of these season, the other 11.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 6/13/2012 8:59:34 AM

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205736.230 in reply to 205736.227
Date: 6/13/2012 12:26:51 PM
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my team averages over 10 blocks per game as a team, and opposition shoots less than 30% against me. So what if my best Shotblocker has only 2.0 blocks per game

Blocking shots isn't just blocking. If it was. Dwight Howard would be a no name player comparitvely. "all he does is effect 3 shots a game" ....its much much more.

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