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Each of the Div-2 leagues has a demoted from the Div-1 league.
Hence, due to the fact that they are playing the game very long, they are the "wall" that those new users can't pass.
The only chance they have is if that player just left the game.
Then, they will go to the first division, and see what is the real size of a "wall".

Unfortunately this is untrue. I will offer evidence.

evidence to show-
many teams promote out of II.1 into JBBL by beating a demoted team. Teams that get relegated to II.3 or II.4 get a free walk. When the .3 and .4 teams go bot or get banned the extra team to go up is usually the II.2 team, since they play more bots and have an easier schedule.

How is this an evidence that contradicts what I've wrote?
It shows the following (and all of that I've already written):
1) On each of the Div-2 leagues there will be a user from the DIV-1 league (unless retired). Meaning - an old user that any new user that will join any of those leagues will find it "the wall".

2) Putting new users evenly (so on each league on that division there will be the same amount of non-BOT teams) on each of the divisions is a seaparate suggestion.
So is the suggestion to reorder all of the teams on the different leagues on each division at the end of each season.
On the other hand, maybe it should be the other way around!!!
Maybe due to the assets that old users pilled up and due to the incompetitiveness, all of the demoted are needed to be demoted to the same league, and not the other way around.

3) Some bring suggestion not for the benefit of the game, but their own benefit.
In this case, so they will have a safety-net for their "long-term plan" of tanking.

You proposed that old teams demoted from JBBL are what is stopping II.1 teams from promoting.

Yes. Still, most of the time, the users that are demoted will be with much more assets than what the new users will have.
It may be less so, at the moment, when JBBL is such small, but for a league just a little bit bigger it will even be much more precise.

PS Please try to work on your English. In only adds to the difficulty in understanding you. certainly doesn't help your arguments when your English is broken.

And again, trying to turn this discussion not on the content but on anything but it...

Last edited by Pini פיני at 3/11/2012 6:11:09 PM

Just saw that South Korea is in an even worse situation than Japan - why is that?

50 million people, number 1 esport nation...

I guess that´s the very reason. They all e-sport, instead of text-sim.

this is the best thread ever

i am spewing i cant real all the deleted posts

wolph, manon, gmperpete & knecht must have the endurance of titans trying to just hold back the ocean with their bare hands but they cant win

every time they make a new point pini repeats his old points

every time they disprove one of his points pini just says that nothing they say can be believed cause they were here too long

his double plus untrue circular logic would make orwell proud

have we true found big brother?

reason, logic, common sense, begging it doesnt matter

because pini is never wrong about anything

@ gms - can we please get this bookmarked? this is one thread everyone should read

No sense in arguing with a Dybbuk...

I'm not going to repeat what already wrote in order of answering once again the same points.

You can continue to keep trying to attack me, but it will not change a thing about the truth of what I've wrote.

As already written, one who keep chosing to attack the other (and with not a real reason), has issues to solve, and a lack of self-confidence that he needs to handle by that behavior.
In this case, I guess that my suggestions that had been set with the purpose of making the game more competitive, and stopping the "old teams" unfariness got to a nerve - as you could no longer use that to win games, and actuaclly will be mesaured upon your skills as a BB-manager.

As written on the "Promotion and Demotion new scheme", I thanking you for your effort here that had brought that suggestion.
Keep up the good work :D :D :D

Well, apparenlty I couldn't resist finding your "truth"...

Here are the standing of the teams playing at your conference.
The information upon standing is the season they've joined the game:
1) 12
2) 12
3) End of season 12
4) End of season 14
5) End of season 15
6) End of season 13
7) The last season finalist (who had joined at season 7, and probably tanking right now).
8) End of season 13 (A team that is just not good enough and who joined from DIV-2 and will return to that).
Moreover - due to the fact that this is the first season at the top division, they had been able to pile less along those seasons.

Let's make it more accurate.
Let's see last season playoff:
QF-1: End of Season 13 team losses to Season 12 team
QF-2: End of Season 12 team losses to End of Season 7 team
QF-3: End of Season 13 team losses to Season 3 team
QF-4: End of Season 3 team losses to Season 7 team

SF-1: Season 12 team losses to End of Season 7 team
SF-1: Season 7 team losses to Season 3 team

Final: End of season 7 team losses to Season 3 team

Find the pattern...