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Why do you want to change the engine again? 90% of the managers yet fail to adapt their players to the last change that was made, I wouldn't say it's time to make enough change yet again.

If you search the right combination of players and skillsets, the inside offense is still very effective. Unfortunately I still see many teams playing the tactic with oldskool players, that's not gonna help you.

This team f.e Dutch Pacers (38253) managed to make the required changes. I'm still hoping I succeeded as well, still managing to win my games, never trained guards in my life. Always been an inside team. But I'm still not sure if I'm just being lucky right now. Even teams with a very strong OD got a tough time agains the quoted team and mine. If you check the NT of Italia f.e, somehow they also manage to stay a (mainly) dominant inside team. Like in this game (7992). Also note the amount of great PFs in the Italian selection, opposed to mono-centers.

I know it's maybe too easy to blame it fully on the managers because the time has been short to train new sort of players, I believe the few ones that actually changed the way of training players will dominated the future, but I can remember some data not too long ago, that even after the changes were announced, we didn't see a huge change in training schedules overall. If you don't adapt, you can't win.

Maybe I should blame it at the 'BB-Culture', the 'big active group of influencal managers'. I've seen a lot of efforts from the BBs to guide everyone in the right directions. A lot of posts that reveal a bit of how players should look like, news items where BBs say what skills will be more important and what skills won't. Somehow people don't seem to notice the comments of the only guys that actually know what's going on in the engine.

5 Stars for you. I Completely agree with you.

I want to adapt, but right now the only solution that i have found, is from the next season to switch to guards training, and thats what the majority of the managers will do. Give us that big secret that will make the inside tactics to win again. I really want to know.

It's not that hard. Just compare the suggested positions of the teams that manage to play inside tactics and compare it with oldskool teams that try the same. That should give enough info what sort of players you'll need.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/16/2010 5:15:34 AM

Those are rear right now. Can you be more specific please?

Many PGs, no SFs, one or no SGs, more PFs than usual and also some Cs of course.

My question was: do you think BBs will change the new GE?

Imho it can ok but there are several examples of "strange matches" and what I ask is simply if something will be changed cause BBs realised that the new GE is not well balanced, that's all ;)

Ok whats the ideal PF? C with more JS, some PA and? No SF's? why? Use a SG as SF? or PF?

Because 'suggested position' SFs are generally JumpShot bombers, with very high JS and some other stuff from 1-to-1 training. This mean they take their own shot and can't get the ball to your inside men, which is your goal. If your guards are good enough (also defensively) you can certainly play a PF at the SF position.

I'm not sure about ideal PFs, I like a lot of driving and some JS at PFs. PA is important for all players, but it's hard to train for inside players, so you need to buy passers. F.e i've got two centers averaging 3.6 and 3.2 assists/game, which is quite a lot for inside men imo.

Well all my players can D. Actually my SF can D better than he shoots, only 3 at PA, who is killing me i think. My plans is to upgrade the SF position soon. 2 of my best big men have 5 at passing. 4 of them they have at least 6~10 on JS. My guards have 10-8-6 at PA. So looks like that all of my players can pass. Do i need a PG with 12+ at PA to be successful? (always considering the low lvl of my league).

Its not like that i dont have passing in my team, and considering that i would expect better results using inside tactics.

in my opinion 4 (dont know the english word for this level) is already good,not ideal, PA for PF and C
so I don't think its that hard to train,or to find in the TL

but I want to know what you all consider to be a good level of PA for the C and PF