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158188.225 in reply to 158188.224
Date: 10/26/2010 1:57:00 PM
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I think that while is NT at different situation than clubs (wel it isnt about ballancing wage and effectivity), the rules for NT players have to be different as well.

Well, you get for such players better merchandise which kind of compensate its specific needs, but that also means more NT players you have, more money you get. But Im sure that fans doesnt have so deep pockets, so they want to pay twice more just because you have two players like this.

Thats the explanation, but the reason for the following suggestion is even different. In order to keep things fair for these teams which have no such luck (ability or will) to grow NT players, doesnt make any sense to give the advantage (financial bonus) to more than 1 player like that into the team.

That means if only 1 guy would have bonus like that, you can come up with the solution which will mean that you dont have to pay for NT player almost anything, as long as he is in the national team.

You come up with the solution that you can't have NT players on your team,which is a bad idea

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158188.226 in reply to 158188.225
Date: 10/26/2010 2:36:12 PM
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Thats not the reason for the idea, it could be fixed anyhow else. I would like to see the advantage for my team, but I know as well that there will be always someone smarther than me to get from that advantage more.

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158188.227 in reply to 158188.226
Date: 10/26/2010 4:40:04 PM
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Thats not the reason for the idea, it could be fixed anyhow else. I would like to see the advantage for my team, but I know as well that there will be always someone smarther than me to get from that advantage more.

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158188.228 in reply to 158188.227
Date: 10/26/2010 4:54:32 PM
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Well, the game is about thinking what advantage you can have against others, isnt it?

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158188.229 in reply to 158188.224
Date: 10/26/2010 9:34:04 PM
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It's not about advantages, it's about pride. You get a little extra merchandising to balance the fact that you probably have to make some sacrifices with other young players. But NT's already have good players, so there is no need to give even more incentive to train a NT guy.
I like the idea of building a NT with efficient salaries and players not bouncing from one team to the other. I think it is a good long-term plan for international success. It's just a matter of convincing the people who elect the coach, and building good relationships with NT trainers. NT training should be the opposite of farming, it should be about training the most efficient player at the cheapest price. If you do that, you help your club, and if the NT coach is one with a long-term plan, he will be interested.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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158188.230 in reply to 158188.228
Date: 10/27/2010 12:27:02 PM
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Yeah,but this doesn't mean that you have to hit the other's advantages in this way,you should try to put your players in NT(o collect money to buy them) to have more advantages than the others,don't you agree? ;D
P.S. I don't think that teams of a III division all over the world can have so many NT players in their roster,it would be strange

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158188.231 in reply to 158188.229
Date: 10/27/2010 4:07:26 PM
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Ok, there is a thing you call a "pride", but dont you think that NT mechanism could be more user-friendly to people who actually doesnt think NT? You are describing everything so romantic that maybe you cannot see that most effective way of building up NT team is at current conditions made by farms, not by a "pride" teams, because it means that you have to sacrifice everything, money, results, everything.

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158188.232 in reply to 158188.230
Date: 10/27/2010 4:19:40 PM
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Yeah,but this doesn't mean that you have to hit the other's advantages in this way,you should try to put your players in NT(o collect money to buy them) to have more advantages than the others,don't you agree? ;D
P.S. I don't think that teams of a III division all over the world can have so many NT players in their roster,it would be strange


Well, I was thinking about limit 1 NT player per team. Im not sure if III. division shouldnt be limited or should, it depends on what is important to do. From what I know is the main problem with the size of the wage, therefore ti can be reduced in the way which could mean that such player can stay in 1 active team.

I was also thinking about make the nomination for NT happen (or that discount) only for a players in teams which are not losing at performace (therefore are not a farms). So active teams could have the opportunity, which could be measured by results or perhaps other kind of activity?

Last edited by aigidios at 10/27/2010 4:22:29 PM

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158188.233 in reply to 158188.232
Date: 10/27/2010 5:25:26 PM
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Yeah,but this doesn't mean that you have to hit the other's advantages in this way,you should try to put your players in NT(o collect money to buy them) to have more advantages than the others,don't you agree? ;D
P.S. I don't think that teams of a III division all over the world can have so many NT players in their roster,it would be strange


Well, I was thinking about limit 1 NT player per team. Im not sure if III. division shouldnt be limited or should, it depends on what is important to do. From what I know is the main problem with the size of the wage, therefore ti can be reduced in the way which could mean that such player can stay in 1 active team.


I think that train an U21 Nt player isn't easy,but is possible for a large number of teams,and you can build a great player that can help you to improve your results,and during this time you can gain money from merchandising.
It doesn't have sense to have such a kind of limit

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158188.234 in reply to 158188.233
Date: 10/27/2010 6:32:35 PM
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Im talking about discount for 500k 25y old center. That could be the best example for the issue of farms or players which rotates teams, but still are valuable for NT.

The point is that meanwhile you have to accept some things for normal club like balancing power/salary, mono/multiskills etc. NT is in a different position. So while there would be will to make NT possible especially for active teams, is reasonable that they deserve any discount from that monstrous wage, however I think that something like this could turn into major advantage if they would have such advantage for more than 1 player in team.

Well, it seems like advantage anyway, but considering fact that this team will sacrifice some training (or give up on different training routine) just because of that player, also have to have a better staff, keep GS always fit, and such wage would be still somehow major thing in that budget, it might start to make sense.

Last edited by aigidios at 10/27/2010 6:37:26 PM

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158188.235 in reply to 158188.231
Date: 10/28/2010 4:53:26 PM
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No, I really think the best way to build long term success for your national team is what your NT coach is doing, not what today's top teams do.

"Air is beautiful, yet you cannot see it. It's soft, yet you cannot touch it. Air is a little like my brain." - Jean-Claude Van Damme
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