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106780.23 in reply to 106780.20
Date: 8/28/2009 12:03:38 PM
JMDCeltics
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It´d be interesting if "Last scrimmage played" had importance at Fan Survey.
Then, everyone should play not only for minutes but for increasing fans satisfaction, and we won´t see walkovers anymore.

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106780.24 in reply to 106780.23
Date: 8/28/2009 12:52:38 PM
Jokehim Maniacs
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What do you benefit of from w/o in a scrimmage? Aren't your training spoiled if you leave a w/o?

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106780.25 in reply to 106780.24
Date: 8/29/2009 2:49:28 AM
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I don´t know, i suppose that if there is a manager selling players before the scrimmage and he can´t afford it with the players´ minimun demanded then he makes a w/o harming to the other manager. This is what we should avoid.
What i feel it´s that scrimmages don´t count a lot and they should. If we give them more importance as all of we are proposing then the game will be more exciting for all.

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106780.26 in reply to 106780.25
Date: 8/29/2009 4:45:18 AM
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The experimenting with tactics argument is absolute nonsense. IF your players are good enough or important enough to you they wouldve already had their minutes by the time your scrimmage comes about.

The need/convenience of a scrimmage is necessary after exiting cups... if you want to experiment why and keep depthe why not use Thursdays for a behind doors internal game between the players on your own roster?

If you havent got enough for 2 teams then you have to look externally for a match.

1) Advantage here is you get more training minutes / more risk of injury but this is a trade off for the extra depth your squad carries and money you invest.

2) You stick to normal scrimmages and simply have the same risks/training as now.

Last edited by Superfly Guy at 8/29/2009 4:46:21 AM

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106780.27 in reply to 106780.25
Date: 8/29/2009 5:17:41 AM
Jokehim Maniacs
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The problem with w/o in scrimmages must be very slow. Manager who lose match due to w/o loses a lot already from it so pretty pointless to add another punishment ...

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106780.28 in reply to 106780.27
Date: 8/29/2009 8:30:02 AM
JMDCeltics
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I don´t believe that it were necessary to add any punishment, but scrimmages should count at fan survey, the arena attendance should appear at its page and any other option that gives scrimmage more importance.
Best regards

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106780.29 in reply to 106780.26
Date: 8/29/2009 9:08:47 AM
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I think that for your team you are right. But your team is ranked third in the bb world, making it a very poor test case. There are lots and lots of teams in the low to mid level leagues that have much larger rosters than you do and have more players of similar skill level. For managers of these teams, it is indeed a great chance to experiment with various lineups, tactics, etc. Even if a team's starters have played, the coach can still see the effects of different tactics because of the similarity in skill level of a larger roster of players.

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106780.30 in reply to 106780.21
Date: 8/29/2009 2:52:36 PM
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Why not use post-cup scrimmage time to address another problem - the issue of of 5th place being stuck on an island?

Expanding a conference to, say, 2 divisions of 5 teams each would only generate a few extra fixtures - few enough that they could be played after the cup final on what's now Scrimmage Day. And with the top two in each division going to playoffs, the bottom side auto-relegated, there'd be no more tanking for match cash. Before the cup had finished, cup-eliminated teams could play scrimmages as normal.

Last edited by gpallis2 at 8/29/2009 2:56:34 PM

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106780.31 in reply to 106780.30
Date: 8/29/2009 3:31:59 PM
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That would seem to deal with three issues: undervalued scrimmages, tanking, and new divisions often seeming like unclimbable mountains, all the while making BB more "NBA-like", which I imagine most players would welcome. It would also give extra heat to rivalry games, since now they'd be even more important.

What would be the objections to such a scheme?

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106780.32 in reply to 106780.2
Date: 8/29/2009 4:02:04 PM
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How about creating a pool for scrimmage? We would only need to put our team in this pool and we would automatically have arranged scrimmage.

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106780.33 in reply to 106780.32
Date: 8/29/2009 5:05:09 PM
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i find it sorta funny this thread is running during the nfl preseason. talk about worthless games -- unless you are the owners and tv networks. realism for us would be getting revenues for the scrimmages (none going to the players -- they have signed for the whole week, right?), factoring in the tv element. injuries would still count. my scrimmages don't draw flies (as in the nfl, fans realize the games have no meaniing), so the revenue numbers would be pretty small.

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