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From: Isaiah

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165015.23 in reply to 165015.22
Date: 11/29/2010 2:54:09 PM
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I didnt expect a great pick this year given im the most dominate team in my league so i have been scouting players from the beginning of the season. I have scouted 13 players so far and of those 4 of them are 18 years old with 5 star rating. 2 with 4 star potential and 1 with 3 star and the other 2 star. I have also 2 4 star 18 year olds with 4 star potential. I consider that a win considering i have been scouting randomly lol. Hopefully i can land 1 of them to get money out of them or train and sell another trainee. The two 18 year olds with 5 star rating and 4 star potential look like great ones though. one is a 6'6" SF and the other is a 6"8 PF. I also have a 5 star SG with only 2 star potential but he has an A+ rating and he is 6'2" and has a pretty good box score.....if only box scores really meant something because he had 29 points 6 rebounds and 6 assists lol.

From: weeso

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165015.24 in reply to 165015.23
Date: 11/29/2010 3:05:28 PM
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well lucky you, my draft class this year looks untalented compared to last season(i had a 5 balls 8th pick HOF and a 5 balls SF with star potential) but this season all the 18 yo gaurds are 4 balls only.

i think u should forget about the 2 star potential he's either a role player or a 6th man.

From: Stajan

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165015.25 in reply to 165015.11
Date: 11/29/2010 3:44:24 PM
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I had 9, count 'em 9, 18 year old 1-2 ball word of mouth players turn into 5 ball players last season with the group demonstration. I didn't end up scouting anything worthwhile, though.

I'm considering doing it again this season because I've just flushed 27 scouting points down the toilet

From: Peluin

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Date: 11/30/2010 12:02:26 AM
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For me, it depends on how many 18 (vs 19) year olds it covers. I almost never purposely draft a 19yo. If you've got 8+ 18yos (and then a good number of 19yos) covered by demo it's worth it. I did it last season and the talent spread from the guys demoing was actually more 5's and 4's than 1's and 2's -- the "initial impressions" are almost uselessly off-base. One of the 19yos wound up being in my top 5 ranking because the draft as a whole was so awful, so I suppose I got my money's worth.

This season the Demo covers 8 18yos and 11 (!) 19yos for me, so I'll see where I land record-wise before deciding what to do. If I hope to get a guy worth anything with my 2nd round pick I'll do the demo and rank up those 19yos. The 10 points on the demo scouts the 8 18yos once (8 points of value), so if 19yos are worth (2/11) points each for me I might as well do the demo. I think I'll wind up doing it again.

Sorry for the awkward structure, sort of stream-of-consciousness responding.

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165015.28 in reply to 165015.27
Date: 11/30/2010 4:08:05 AM
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i've got these guys:
- 5 balls A+ with 4 balls potential 18yo
- 5 balls A- with 5 balls potential 18yo

who is better? what salary is a A+ and a A-?

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165015.29 in reply to 165015.28
Date: 11/30/2010 4:45:43 AM
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Hey this is only my second draft so am hoping you guys with a bit more experience can help out.
first up - what sort of potential can I expect for a 3ball draftee?
also I have a 6'10 draftee who's position is apparently a PG, how does that work? does this just mean that he will start out with good passing/handling skills etc???

Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers guys

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165015.30 in reply to 165015.29
Date: 11/30/2010 5:47:55 AM
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Hey!

Second draft? So this means it's your second season on BB. Hope you enjoy the game ;-).

I'm not that experimented but no one has respond to your question yet, so let me give my opinion:
- 3 ball draftee: If a prospect drops out a 3 ball potential it means you'll draft a star or all star player.
- 6'10 PG: It depends on how many balls this draftee has pop out regarding his star rating. If he has 5 star rating balls this mean he'll have respectable primary stats for a PG (passing, handling like you mentioned).

This is my understanding of the draft though. I may be wrong, even if I don't think so, but if so: hope that someone can explain the correct draft process.

Last edited by Pipat Kitamakin at 11/30/2010 5:48:17 AM

From: Koperboy

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165015.31 in reply to 165015.11
Date: 11/30/2010 5:49:57 AM
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Is the "group demonstration" worthwhile? My assumption would be a strong "no", so much so that I wonder if I'm missing something here.


It depends on what you are looking for, but I think Group Demonstration is almost never worthwile except in the case someone already mentioned: If there are more than 10 18-year olds with one and two balls.

It is worthwile, however, if you are looking for both 19 and 18-year olds. The thing is, I can't think of any reason someone would want to pick a 19-year old over an 18-year old rookie. I think you can't compare any 19-year old rookie, who is coming from draft, to a 19-year old who has already have a full season of training and came from draft a year earlier as a 18-year old.

In my draft, I first wanted to see the ages and heights of all draftees, so I used Scouting cominbe function. Which is, in my opinion, the best way to go. After that, I found only 4 18-year olds were among 1 and 2 ball rated players. Since I wanted to see only 18-year olds, using Group demonstration would be a loss of points. Why?

Group Demonstration is the same as "Scouted once". But option "Scouted once" uses only one point. So if I used Group demonstration to see all four 18-year olds, I'd spend 10 points on a thing I could use only 4 points.

I hope I made myself clear, since I'm not a native english speaker...

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165015.32 in reply to 165015.28
Date: 11/30/2010 6:05:17 AM
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i've got these guys:
- 5 balls A+ with 4 balls potential 18yo
- 5 balls A- with 5 balls potential 18yo

who is better? what salary is a A+ and a A-?

First of all, it depends on whether you are drafting the player to train or you are drafting the player mainly just to sell. If you're planning to sell, then I recommend drafting the second draftee with 5 ball potential. Young player with high potential can be sold for a quite good price on TL. You could always argue that the first player has a better starting skill because it is A+, but I personally think that there isn't much difference between + and -. And you could always train A- player for the first few weeks and get his weak skills up, then sell him etc.
A+ is definitely better than A- but I don't think the difference is very significant. Not sure about the salary though.

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165015.33 in reply to 165015.31
Date: 11/30/2010 7:28:52 AM
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It depends on what you are looking for, but I think Group Demonstration is almost never worthwile except in the case someone already mentioned: If there are more than 10 18-year olds with one and two balls.


Yes and no. In my case I had 9 18-year-olds in that group so you could argue that it's not worth the 10 points. But in my case I found 2 19-year-olds in there with a 5 skill rating. Their box scores look pretty nice so if I have enough scouting points in the end and if these 2 have good potential and the right position, they might still make it to the top 5 or top 10 in my list.

We have both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
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