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180791.23 in reply to 180791.22
Date: 4/20/2011 9:17:57 AM
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My team was getting old and I needed to refocus on some young trainees, I think it worked out well and I can use the training blueprint and my success as a way to motivate up and coming managers to train their prospects instead of selling them.

From: abigfishy

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180791.24 in reply to 180791.23
Date: 4/20/2011 7:29:39 PM
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hey iwen good luck and here are my questions

have you gone through all the leagues and identified the players from this years draft who can be stars in the future?

have you thought about who will be your staff this season? mllama had about 10 guys working for him - was that a success or a problem? which of those guys will you have back again and who wont you have? you and aussie dude were mllamas two main assistants who will be yours?

what will be your strategy and criteria for saving players from botting?

who is going to win the nba championship and why (shows a wide knowledge of basketball and any answer other than chicago means i will be voting for fanny)?

From: iwen

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180791.25 in reply to 180791.24
Date: 4/20/2011 7:59:04 PM
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I've done quite a bit of "face value" scouting so far, but without the ability to call up players and see their skills I need to wait for managers to get back to me. If elected, this process becomes a lot easier and I can have a pretty big database of all potential players.

In regards to staffing, I wanted yodabig to be my assistant, but he's going for India U21, so he's crossed off the list. I have a few other people in mind, but I won't be contacting the until after the election. I don't mind having 10 mentors helping with training, but I'm looking for more control of the quality of players we're outputting. Less opinions is sometimes more, and I have a solid idea of the kind of team I want by the time the 2nd term comes around (if I'm elected then re-elected). I will still have "scouts" looking around, but like I said, I'd like greater control of training of future prospects, so I'm willing to sift through 50 bb-mails everyday if I have to. But those decisions I haven't really decided on yet, those guys who are currently helping I am happy to keep on board and they can continue mentoring their existing players, but new 18 year olds, I will look after them and groom them.

I will be leaving spots open in the U21 roster, I may start with 12-14 players in the first team, and leave room for late-bloomers or bot players. I will only save the very best, ie. Superstar above potential with a good balance of skills. Everything really depends. Hopefully some Aussie managers have some cash saved..

Lakers. They're playing like crap, but they're still the best team. Chicago are good, no doubt, only cause of Rose. They should have lost the first 2 games, especially if the Pacers were healthy. They got extremely lucky. But sometimes you need luck. Based purely on matchups, nobody can beat the Lakers. Whether they play to their level though...

So Lakers v Chicago in the finals! Lakers to win, Rose to get Finals MVP even though the team loses. (Cause he carries them, and Boozer is invisible in playoffs)

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180791.26 in reply to 180791.25
Date: 4/20/2011 9:47:53 PM
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only cause of Rose
I strongly disagree on this point but i will still vote for you anyway. I will not hijack the discussion with my reasons here but i reckon you're way off.

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Date: 4/20/2011 11:57:42 PM
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I think this is highly relevant to Iwens ability to run our team (and if it isn't Dire will tell me off and delete it) but Iwens inability to recognise the contributions of Noah, Deng and Bogans in creating one of the best defences in the NBA amazes me. I can understand him ignoring Boozer but he is also an intregal part of the offence if the team is to advance far.

This lack of judgement causes me to consider voting for Fanny, for a microsecond, then stick with the best man for the job, Iwen.

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180791.28 in reply to 180791.25
Date: 4/21/2011 5:11:11 AM
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Iwen if I vote for you, what can you do for me and my new found rookie?
He said he wants to represent the U21 when he is 21, can you make that happen for him?

If so, you have my vote..

p.s OKC versus Miami finals. Durant to win his first ring and finals MVP award.

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180791.29 in reply to 180791.24
Date: 4/21/2011 7:21:14 AM
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I'm not running.

Can you smell what the Hobos are cooking... oh wait its just Roger. (18085274)
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180791.30 in reply to 180791.28
Date: 4/21/2011 8:14:29 AM
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I don't need to make it happen for you. You're experienced enough having trained Rooney for the U21 and you know the mistakes you made in training him... so take those learning experiences and apply them to make your new draftee even better!

Although, this season there were plenty of fantastic looking PG/SG/SF draftees and a good crop of PFs. So expect a bit of competition at the guard spot.

From: Leeroy

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180791.31 in reply to 180791.6
Date: 4/21/2011 9:02:53 AM
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Quick question for you Iwen.

The previous U21 coach (mllama) developed a mentor system in which he had 8 or so individuals act as mediators in giving managers advice on how to train their potential NT players and updates were posted off-site. I believe keeping track of players skills and giving managers who may not have the knowledge of training experienced mentors has been beneficial so far. Saying that, it relies heavily on the Australian volunteers having to constantly contact managers and update training results. Will you improve/continue this system or do you have any other ideas on how we can manage and nurture the young Aussie talent?

From: iwen

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180791.32 in reply to 180791.31
Date: 4/21/2011 9:22:20 AM
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As I posted earlier, I want to maintain certain aspects of it, but with so many different opinions, I'd like some control of the fresh 18 year olds.

I'm still to decide fully, but I won't be scrapping the mentoring at all.

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