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From: thylacine

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183697.23 in reply to 183697.22
Date: 5/6/2011 5:03:59 AM
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That what exactly my logic if you play against R'n'G, cause you know for sure your bigs will be spread playing m2m. But you still get a better RB ratings than 3-2. And if one argues that in m2m you have a better control of your man and it's easier to box out, why would you get an increased RB rating in 2-3 zone. Often you see attackers flying left and right to snap RBs vs 2-3 (which is the one zone D that played most), cause it's harder to keep track of attackers.
I agree that ID improves with 2-3 zone, but RB? Not so sure.

Last edited by thylacine at 5/6/2011 5:05:50 AM

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Date: 5/6/2011 8:15:24 AM
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I think that, traditionally, the 2-3 zone was played to keep teams from exploiting the inside game by playing three players across the block. This makes it much easier to form the rebounding triangle ( I found a short explanation here (http://www.coachesclipboard.net/ZoneRebounding.html)). In a 3-2 this is not as easy to do. In man to man the rebounding is up to the individual matchup.

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Date: 5/6/2011 9:40:03 AM
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".. approximately 70% of missed shots from the corner go to the opposite side." Still they want to rotate their other big man to the first side, rotating a wing to fight for 70% of rebounds taken from the corner.
I thought you'd rotate wings to close down a corner shot in 3-2 zone..

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Date: 5/6/2011 9:29:34 PM
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I have played, coached, reffed, and watched basketball for more than 35 years.

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183697.29 in reply to 183697.26
Date: 5/6/2011 9:44:07 PM
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Good point but maybe I can explain it a bit.

First of all, you notice that if the ball is shot from the other corner, it will be the 4 (PF) doing the weak side rebounding, so it's not always the 3 (SF).
Secondly, in a 2-3 zone, usually the corners are defended by the guys down low in the zone. In a 3-2 this becomes the guys on the free throw line extended. In this diagram, the low man still covers the corner but I believe it is better to send the wing down and rotate the other top guys over. The weak side low guy (3 in the diagram) is then responsible for skip passes
Lastly, you have to remember that when the ball goes to the corner and the low guy moves out to cover it, the center has to fill that space or else you have a huge gap at the ball side low post, which would be a bad thing for your defense. So the C is generally moving to that position before the shot is taken.

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183697.32 in reply to 183697.31
Date: 5/7/2011 3:07:11 AM
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I haven't noticed lately because I haven't been watching my games, but I do remember a few seasons ago some steals turning into quick (3 or 4 seconds) baskets at the other end. In my opinion the main thing that could be added to the game is a fast break. I have some ideas about how to implement it but am so far from being a programmer that I will keep them to myself as they are probably either impossible or so time/code consuming as to be impractical.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 5/7/2011 3:07:59 AM

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