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Some off-season (going to be a long one!) discussion: top 10 PGs

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189417.23 in reply to 189417.22
Date: 9/6/2011 2:45:38 PM
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I just dont agree. AI was always a SG, maybe in Denver at the end he ran point badly, but no question he was a SG. However Arenas although he often played like a SG was always listed as a PG and played the PG position. Just confused how you make the comparison.

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189417.24 in reply to 189417.23
Date: 9/6/2011 7:11:40 PM
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Except for much of his career AI was listed as simply a guard. On most bio pages, he's now listed as a "guard" - which I think is the more accurate. Much like Arenas.

I've said quite a bit during this process (well... the one I've been involved in at Hoops Manifesto) that I don't believe that players fit into the parameters we paint any more. The notion of "PG-through-to-center" is something that's been in place for decades... but I think that players over the last decade have been far more flexible than that.

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189417.25 in reply to 189417.24
Date: 9/6/2011 7:43:58 PM
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I guess it depends on what your definition of the point guard is, but in general, if its the player that handles the ball and makes the "critical" passes / the play maker which the offense runs through...then I'd have to say AI was definitely a point guard.

Sure, a lot of time he choose to shoot the ball rather than pass it...but the offense is running through him either way. No difference than with Derrick Rose, right?


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189417.26 in reply to 189417.25
Date: 9/6/2011 7:47:04 PM
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Nice comparison.
AI and D-Rose have very comparable numbers actually...

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189417.27 in reply to 189417.26
Date: 9/6/2011 7:48:46 PM
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Nice comparison.
AI and D-Rose have very comparable numbers actually...


D-Rose lacks AI's street cred...

...of course, he might actually win a championship.

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189417.28 in reply to 189417.27
Date: 9/6/2011 8:19:29 PM
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And he doesn't have an MVP. Yet...

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189417.29 in reply to 189417.25
Date: 9/7/2011 8:27:54 PM
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I guess it depends on what your definition of the point guard is, but in general, if its the player that handles the ball and makes the "critical" passes / the play maker which the offense runs through...then I'd have to say AI was definitely a point guard.




I agree that the definition can vary, and this is a prime example. The two factors I wiegh most heavily in dertimining a PG is does he bring the ball upcourt and start the halfcourt offense rolling? Just making key passes can qualify anyone. Jordan was an excellent passer but this didnt make him the point guard. Also, what does his own team and the box score list him as? Are these difinitive? no, just my criteria.