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From: Santos

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196058.23 in reply to 196058.22
Date: 9/20/2011 9:53:41 AM
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I have. I was training 1on1 for forwards for two weeks in a row.

The 1st week 3 or 4 pops. The 2nd week I have 0 pops. And training rebound this week I'm pretty sure I'm going to have just 1 pop or none at all.

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196058.24 in reply to 196058.23
Date: 9/20/2011 3:16:44 PM
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I have. I was training 1on1 for forwards for two weeks in a row.

The 1st week 3 or 4 pops. The 2nd week I have 0 pops. And training rebound this week I'm pretty sure I'm going to have just 1 pop or none at all.



so you basically expect 3 or 4 pops each week

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196058.25 in reply to 196058.24
Date: 9/20/2011 4:50:05 PM
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Not really, I just expect the normal 1 pop per trainee, making it 2 pops per week. Already expected it with the old system, expect it even more with the cross-training system.

However, I have dealt with the 0 pops per week thing in the old training system. Just wasn't expecting it with the cross-training thing.

From: Fresh24
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196058.26 in reply to 196058.25
Date: 9/20/2011 7:58:43 PM
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For the average player in the game, this will result in approximately 10% slower training in their primary skill than before, and additional training in other skills approximately corresponding to that 10% loss. A particularly well-rounded player will continue to receive cross-training but will see a much lower reduction in primary skill training, while a particularly one-dimensional player will see a larger loss.
For those that have forgotten, this was the Season 17 news post... and I imagine some players will slow a lot more more than 10% in their primary skills to make it quite noticeable.

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196058.28 in reply to 196058.27
Date: 9/21/2011 4:53:15 AM
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people, I think most people overestimate the effect of crosstraining. Even when there is the expectation of one pop per player and training, which is not reasonable in many trainings such as rebounds and pd, and we are talking about 10% of the training value.

Which means, thought the other way around, we are about to see a random pop about one time in 10 weeks, but with a huge variance, because the subs have a strong effect here and its like to have the cross training in a slowly training field for the player (e.g. when there is center training, it will likely be something as pd, which is slow for tall players)

So everybody should slow down and stop expecting a huge amount of pops from crosstraining. Be happy when you see something unexpected, but don't get too used to it.

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196058.29 in reply to 196058.28
Date: 9/21/2011 8:39:59 AM
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They are actually talking about primary training slowing down and not about cross-training not being there. So if you have been training OD, you had 1 pop/2 weeks and now you have something like 1 pop/2.5 weeks. At least that's the argument.

I haven't seen a slow down yet though. I'm training JR for 4 weeks now and my main trainee (Polh) popped every 2nd week regularly. He should pop this week also. If he doesn't, no biggie, as I know JR is among the slowest trainings and for me, lack of pop will not be evidence of slowing down of training.

From: MrKid

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196058.31 in reply to 196058.30
Date: 9/21/2011 2:18:04 PM
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Excellent information
+1

Can you tell us to complete...
What was the level of your coach in season 16?
What is the level of your coach this season?

Thanks in advance

From: Hoosier

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196058.33 in reply to 196058.30
Date: 9/22/2011 3:27:59 AM
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I notice you did a lot of guard training in season 16, and a lot of inside training so far this season. May I ask what the height of your trainees are?

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